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From: Indra B Karki Subject: RE: A Freak's Suggestion for Nepal, Bhutan & Bangladesh to Join the Union of India Dear All Sorry that I joined this conversation a bit late. I felt obliged to participate in it as I found the subject matter under discussion not only important but also very touchy and sentimental. With all respect to Prof. Leo Rebello (Looks like a fake name representing immature colleague from India), I have found his comments deplorable and not a subject to be discussed in such forums. How come that Mr. Fake Leo ventures to suggest a sovereign country like Nepal to join any union ? Probably he is not aware of how proud and brave are the Nepalese people? He should know Nepal means "We Nepalese" people including more than hundred thousand Gurkhas serving in the Indian Army who would better sacrifice themselves for their motherland Nepal than loosing their identity as Nepalese. The Political system may change, the leadership may be corrupted and leaning towards the south for power, the country may be under political transition however, when it may come to the matter of identity, all the Nepalese, will be united and fight for Nepal until the last breadth. The sovereignty - Nepalese identity and culture is so dear and near to all of us. The lame logic of Chinese invasion in Nepal is simply a matter of ignorance and childish statement. Why China would bother to capture mountains and hills from neighbourly brothers that is already secured by brave Nepalese people. What advantage for China ! by occupying barren hills at the cost of good neighbourly relationship through ages! However; the situation might change, if in case there were any foreign design - attempt to destabilizing China through Nepal and Tibet. My assessment is that if that were to happen, China would certainly use its every available power in its hand including nuclear warheads and influence to deter such threats and help Nepal to maintain status quo. Anti-Indian sentiment as suggested by the writer ! yes! in some extent he is right unfortunately he should know that it may be due to some obvious reasons like, India trying to show big brotherly relationship with its neighbors - economic blockade to Nepal earlier, and trying to intervene in their internal affairs from time to time. Greater Nepal ! Yes! I also believe that this matter should not be raised at this point of time, and it may not happen at least for some unforeseeable future. However, it should not be forgotten that Nepal have lost its prime land to India in the past due to the feeble leadership of those days and it would be great if india as a one of the biggest democracy in the world would be generous to return Nepalese land including access to the sea, it she genuinely thinks and believes that we - Nepal and India both share the same religion and culture. Involvement of raw and ISI in Nepal- these are part of international power politics - big versus small and weak versus strong! We have weaknesses we must confess, this is happening due to corrupt and weak leadership that is always looking for umbrella from somewhere for political power and thereby looting the Nepalese people. So called Democratic congress, Revolutionary leftists and others - all are equally incompetent and majority of Nepalese people are the victims where people like Mr, fake leo has been ablle to utter words which he should never have been able to venture. "SABAILAI CHETANA BHAYA". My suggestion to the concerned media is to refrain from entertaining such deragotary and blasphemous opinions on line.
Best Regards, Indra KARKI __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________- Rana Ji: You think this freak Leo’s view for Nepal, Bhutan and Bangladesh to join the Union of India is important to discuss? I am not sure how many people cc’ed in this email are psychiatrist to deal with this insane person. If he is insane, he needs medical help. Unfortunately, most people here are not doctors. I bet this guy is either not an Indian (at least not a self-respecting Indian), or a Congress UPA member. Every Hindu and visionary Indian cc’ed in this email will feel insulted. Why don’t you cc some friends from Bhutan and Bangladesh as well and see the reaction? Leo is nothing but an instigator of violence in disguise of ‘World Peace Envoy”. He wants the Hindus to fight for the little piece of land in South Asia. Sadly for him, gone are the days. By undermining Hindus’ intelligence, this guy has made a mockery of himself. BTW, I just heard from an Indian guy on the street that anyone whose name is “Leo” should be expelled from India. Should I call him a freak, insane or a World Peace Envoy? Sincerely, Ashutosh Shrivastav
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On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 6:50 AM, Ash Shrivastav wrote: Quite a shameful statement from a self-declared World Researcher questionable Indian. Is this even an Indian Guy? We would love to hear from "Universe Researchers". Rana Ji: By forwarding these types of dumb emails from freaks like this, you not only waste people's time but dishonor their integrity as well. Sent via my Blackberry handle _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ From: The Himalayan Voice [mailto:himalayanvoice@gmail.com] Subject: Re: Lets help build trust and respectful relationships among the neighbouring countries. Hi Dr. Rebello, Please read few comments below. How Nepalese people react against any Indians holding some 'unreal beliefs' and feel quite safe from China ? This is how Nepali nationalism works. This is how it has been working since ages ?. As we have already outlined that China would never invade Nepal and also no one can invade Nepal, this is the 21st Century. Forget about India.In one of your emails , you kind of blamed us that 'The Himalayan Voice' just talks of Nepal and Nepalese only and publishes other neighbouring countries' issues 'twisting' and editing. It is not true, we offer space to voice - for everyone from India and Pakistan also. We emailed ( have not posted) your views without editing, now see how fellow Nepalese have reacted ? So, here please check what we have already posted (a), (b), (c), (d), (e), (f), DOES PAKISTAN SPONSOR TERRORISM AS SOME INDIANS PUT BLAME ON IT ? and see the comment also. We did not copy all your emailsAnyway, please forward balanced views and we would post them. We have already posted your views on our health and drugs mafia :WAKE UP TO FIGHT THIS WAR ON OUR HEALTH AS MED-MAFIA HAS ALREADY PRODUCED SOME 30000 DISEASES MEDICINE Lets help build trust and respectful relationships among the neighbouring countries. The Himalayan Voice Team Cambridge, Massachusetts United States of America http://thehimalayanvoice.blogspot.com http://thehimalayanvoice.wordpress.com __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Birat Simha wrote: Just because some Indian pseudo-intellectual says "China may invade Nepal", it does not have to carry any validity or concern any of us. India's Sino-phobia is documented over and over. China has a long-standing policy of non-intervention in the internal political affairs of other countries. Yes, China WILL invade Nepal if India invades it first!! The Himalayan Voice needs to use its judgment better and scrutinize the opinions it presents. Otherwise, it will simply become a spittoon for any and all crazy ideas. May I also take this opportunity to ask for the composition of the directorial board of The Himalayan Voice (based in Cambridge, Massachusetts). http://infotainmentbyhoratio.blogspot.com "Right temporarily defeated is stronger than evil triumphant." Dr. Martin Luther King
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From: S.N. Karki Sent: Sat, 19 June, 2010 6:41:45 AM Subject: Re: CHINA MAY INVADE ? NEPAL, INDIA AND CHINA RELATIONSHIPS How can some one direct Nepal to merge in Indian union only becausesome Dr. Leo Rebello suspect that China will capture Nepal ? And howdare Himalayan Voice dare to insult Nepal and Nepali advertising this??This Leo hide the fact that Maoist ware trained, backed, funded byIndia, Sp. UPA Govt. Sitaram Yachuri well advocated Maoist of Nepal. He came to Nepal to pressurized Nepal. Now the Nehru Doctrine to annex neighboring country. Sikkim was annexed, by removing Monarchy now game plan to annex Nepal came forward as Dr. Leo Rebello. It is alarming situation not only for Nepali but also Indian Nationalist. Such greedy eye on neighbor will force neighbor to became enemy of India. NEPAL IS NOT CHUNK OF CAKE IT IS HARDER TO DIGEST. And before we nationalist declare Himalayan voice anti Nepali Please clarify how dare Himalayan voice put this discussion among Nepali which says "Nepal, Bhutan and Bangla Desh should join Indian Union." Swayambhu Nath Karki
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From: Puja Pant Subject: Re: (UNN) Re: CHINA MAY INVADE ? NEPAL, INDIA AND CHINA RELATIONSHIPS To: himalayanvoice@gmail.com, UnitedNationalistNepalese@yahoogroups.com India uses "China" as its scapegoat and tries to validate its interference in Nepal by defending its unnecessary and unwarranted bullying role in Nepal. Nepalis are well aware of Indian tactics and it’s but just some of the so called leaders of Nepal that are afraid to act on it. By sheltering Nepal's Maoists in India, and calling them terrorists before Nepali government itself did, its obvious India - was planting seeds to disintegrate Nepal - to make it weaker in the long run. So that India, not China can take over Nepal as it did Sikkim after overthrowing its Monarchy. Making Nepal secular and abolishing Monarchy fall under India's grand design. It is high time Nepal becomes aware of India, of its strategy for development of "offensive" politics, rather than defensive and progressive. It is evident by India's recent and past actions and behaviors that India wants its neighbor to remain unstable, whether it’s Pakistan, Bangladesh or Nepal, so that it is better off than its neighbor and become a regional hegemony. Instead of focusing on its own endless issues of poverty, religious strife, population control- to name just a few, India tries relentlessly to cause trouble in its neighbouring countries, perhaps that's because it’s easier to cause destruction than to fix its own problems at home!! It is indeed sad that such countries that use offensive politics as a means to get a head in world politics are often called leaders in democracy. Nepal has no issues with China-- So India need not to be concerned with China wanting to make Nepal a colony after all Nepal's Maoists are product of India not China. It is a fact. May God bless Nepal and India-hopefully the birth of its own Maoists won't bury it in the grave it had dug for Nepal. Jay Pashupatinath! ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Dipesh Limbu Date: Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 11:07 AM Subject: RE: LET US TAKE SOME RESPITE FROM POLITICS AND CONSIDER OUR PERSONAL HEALTH To: himalayanvoice@gmail.com Indeed, it is a good to have open discussion but it should not be a FORUM to insult weaker. We do not need to join any collation on the stage of Indian mentality and there is no point to worry about China's invading Nepal. Of course, Nepal and Nepalese make collation if and only, India respects Nepal and Nepalese peoples’ Freedom. NO, no not possible, the way Indian authorities are treating and playing against Nepal. Let FREEDOM ring, let’s build Trust, let’s make written agreement that India won't interfere Nepal’s internal matter. Mr Leo construct this trust, and bring your proposal. Otherwise, do not try to give 'Lolly Pop' and remember Nepal and Nepalese are not your Children! D Limbu Love Nepal and Nepalese Sure: Buddha was born in Nepal and Sagarmatha(Everest) is Sole pride of Nepal.
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From: The Himalayan Voice <himalayanvoice@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 1:22 AM To: Dr. Leo Rebello <prof.leorebello@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Lets help build trust and respectful relationships among the neighbouring countries. Hi Dr. Rebello, Please read few comments below. How Nepalese people react against any Indians holding some 'unreal beliefs' and feel quite safe from China ? This is how Nepali nationalism works. This is how it has been working since ages ?. As we have already outlined that China would never invade Nepal and also no one can invade Nepal, this is the 21st Century. Forget about India. In one of your emails , you kind of blamed us that 'The Himalayan Voice' just talks of Nepal and Nepalese only and publishes other neighbouring countries' issues 'twisting' and editing. It is not true, we offer space to voice - for everyone from India and Pakistan also. We emailed ( have not posted) your views without editing, now see how fellow Nepalese have reacted ? So, here please check what we have already posted (a)<http://thehimalayanvoice.blogspot.com/2010/05/some-indians-make-fake-drugs-and-risk.html> , (b)<http://thehimalayanvoice.blogspot.com/2010/05/india-making-major-effort-to-bridge.html> , (c)<http://thehimalayanvoice.blogspot.com/2010/04/china-india-forum-cross-cultural.html> , (d),<http://thehimalayanvoice.blogspot.com/2010/04/china-india-forum-cross-cultural.html> (e)<http://thehimalayanvoice.blogspot.com/2010/04/himalayan-kingdoms-and-indias-foreign.html>, (f)<http://thehimalayanvoice.blogspot.com/2010/04/balwadi-binding-himalayan-village.html> , DOES PAKISTAN SPONSOR TERRORISM AS SOME INDIANS PUT BLAME ON IT ?<http://thehimalayanvoice.blogspot.com/2010/04/indian-american-group-asks-us-to.html> and see the comment also. We did not copy all your emails. Anyway, please forward balanced views and we would post them. We have already posted your views on our health and drugs mafia :WAKE UP TO FIGHT THIS WAR ON OUR HEALTH AS MED-MAFIA HAS ALREADY PRODUCED SOME 30000 DISEASES MEDICINE<http://thehimalayanvoice.blogspot.com/2010/05/wake-up-to-fight-this-war-on-our-health_4509.html> Lets help build trust and respectful relationships among the neighbouring countries. The Himalayan Voice Team Cambridge, Massachusetts United States of America http://thehimalayanvoice.blogspot.com http://thehimalayanvoice.wordpress.com ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Birat Simha wrote: Just because some Indian pseudo-intellectual says "China may invade Nepal",it does not have to carry any validity or concern any of us. India's Sino-phobia is documented over and over. China has a long-standing policy of non-intervention in the internal political affairs of other countries. Yes, China WILL invade Nepal if India invades it first!! The Himalayan Voice needs to use its judgment better and scrutinize the opinions it presents. Otherwise, it will simply become a spittoon for any and all crazy ideas. May I also take this opportunity to ask for the composition of the directorial board of The Himalayan Voice (based in Cambridge, Massachusetts). infotainmentbyhoratio.blogspot.com "Right temporarily defeated is stronger than evil triumphant." Dr. Martin Luther King ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ From:* S.N. Karki To:* The Himalayan Voice <himalayanvoice@gmail.com> Sent:* Sat, 19 June, 2010 6:41:45 AM > *Subject:* Re: CHINA MAY INVADE ? NEPAL, INDIA AND CHINA RELATIONSHIPS How can some one direct Nepal to merge in Indian union only becausesome Dr. Leo Rebello suspect that China will capture Nepal ? And how dare Himalayan Voice dare to insult Nepal and Nepali advertising thisThis Leo hide the fact that Maoist ware trained, backed, funded by India, Sp. UPA Govt. Sitaram Yachuri well advocated Maoist of Nepal.He came to Nepal to pressurized Nepal. Now the Nehru Doctrine to annex neighboring country. Sikkim was annexed, by removing Monarchy now game plan to annex Nepal came forward as Dr. Leo Rebello. It is alarming situation not only for Nepali but also Indian Nationalist. Such greedy eye on neighbor will force neighbor to became enemy of India.NEPAL IS NOT CHUNK OF CAKE IT IS HARDER TO DIGEST. And before we nationalist declare Himalayan voice anti Nepali Please clarify how dare Himalayan voice put this discussion among Nepali which says "Nepal, Bhutan and Bangla Desh should join Indian Union."
Swayambhu Nath Karki > On 6/18/10, The Himalayan Voice <himalayanvoice@gmail.com> wrote: Below please check a self-explanatory style of email from one of our> > contributors Dr. Leo Rebello in Bombay, India. The question raised is serious. As always you are most welcome to contribute to this thread also. Well, The Himalayan Voice - is not for Nepal and Nepalese peoples only. It raises the voices from the whole Himalayan region. Thank you, > > The Himalayan Voice Team > > Cambridge, Massachusetts > > United States of America > > http://thehimalayanvoice.blogspot.com > > http://thehimalayanvoice.wordpress.com On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 6:10 AM, Dr. Leo Rebello <
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> >> On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 6:10 AM, Dr. Leo Rebello < > >> prof.leorebello@gmail.com> wrote: If Pakistan can can access POK and enter Kargil, why cannot mighty Chinese army **at the doors of Arunachal, Sikkim enter Nepal? Have you forgotten the Chinese invasation of India in 1962? Read The Himalayan Blunder by Brigadier John Dalvi. Are you aware that China is building a massive dam on Brahmputra which will create water shortage and massive flooding and more water wars between Bangladesh and India? Are you aware that Maoist of Nepal and India are trained in China? Are you aware that China has built a road right upto POK? China is incidental, what essentially we are** talking of is SAARC union. Let your readers discuss. Original Message ----- From:*The Himalayan Voice <himalayanvoice@gmail.com> To: Dr. Leo Rebello <prof.leorebello@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 12:40 PM Subject:Re: NEPAL, INDIA AND CHINA RELATIONSHIPS This is impossible. How would China do that crossing those formidable Himalayas. On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 3:47 AM, Dr. Leo Rebello <prof.leorebello@gmail.com> wrote:
China will first capture Nepal, then Bhutan, than NE after having gobbled Tibet. To stop this expansionism of China, I give the following suggestion.
Nepal, Bhutan and Bangla Desh should join Indian Union. Infact, we should have SAARC Union as free border, so that we become a force bigger than European Union. Think over. Circulate this even though this may sound utopian. But you need to remember that ONLY utopian ideas have led to the progress of the world.*
Dr. Leo Rebello World Peace Envoy From:* The Himalayan Voice <himalayanvoice@gmail.com> Sent:* Thursday, June 17, 2010 11:55 AM Subject:* Re:NEPAL, INDIA AND CHINA RELATIONSHIPS CHINA IS KEEN TO MAKE NEPAL ITS SATELLITE COLONY, WHAT DO U THINK http://thehimalayanvoice.blogspot.com/2010/06/china-is-keen-to-make-nepal-its.html
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Posted on 06-22-10 12:36
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This guy is blamming india for everything and get gyanendra back in chairs...don't even think about it.Nepal will not be ruled by king anymore, Period. One family cannot continue to rule the world and imply laws as they like. I bet Gyanendra killed his family for same position and will do everything get back that chair. Thats why he is going temples and preaching nepal should be hindu country. One time maoist wanted republic country killed 13000 people and destroyed building,bridges, burned transportation means and now UNN or whatever trying to achieve same things doing that. I know these prick leaders have nothing to loose but citizens of nepal want peace not playground of Gyanendra, Prachanda or Madhesi's War. What i got from your website (http://www.unnepal.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=46&Itemid=53) UNN insists upon peaceful public deliberations and a referendum on: - Hindu nation or Secular state: Hindu Rastra is not about theocracy, but rather represents an acknowledgment of our heritage, roots, and values.
- Constitutional Monarchy or Republic: Constitutional Monarchy is not about feudalism or the divine right of a King, but rather represents an acknowledgment of the cultural and unifying role of the King in Nepal within a democratic framework. The UNN urges that the Constitution of 1990 be restored, on a provisional basis, until the Nepali people have delivered their own verdict on that document via referendum. The present Constituent Assembly, elected and convened under circumstances of unacceptable Maoist coercion and low-grade terror, should be suspended and its work halted. To ensure a free and fair referendum, the disarmament and confinement of Maoist cadres in designated cantonments shall continue under the supervision of the Nepal Army, and all recruitment into the Maoist "Peoples' Liberation Army" and "Young Communist League" is to be halted at once.
OBJECTIVES United Nationalist Nepalese (UNN ) was formed: - To act as an organizational focus for all individuals, irrespective of ethnicity, religion, or background, who sincerely believe in the restoration of a unitary, independent and democratic nation of Nepal.
- To speak on behalf of all nationalist Nepalese, both within Nepal and abroad.
Again, Your organisation itself is contradicting. This organisation is run or founded by Gyanendra himself to fool nepali citizens again. The organisations advisor or memebers might be doctors or whatever but they are totally inclined restoring monarchy and blindy following pigs who were ruling nepal as their will. Gyanendra will be next Osama bin ladein of Nepal. His rich arse gonna found carbomb which we already found couple in capital and bet he will try anything for that chair. PEACE thats what we nee in nepal..not a war for monarchy, democracy or republic, we dont focking care what kind of policy or memorandum you have but just let us live in peace, give us infrastructure,electricity, education in our home. Why we have to run from our country, our people? Politicians including you gyanendra will craving to become leaders and we innocent have always been suffering. Why are we even following these pigs?
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It has simple answer, perhaps you couldn't notice it because you are out of Nepal (I think long time). As Ashutosh wrote in his article " Royal massacre unfolding " it all become as acts of long written drama. They have to annex Nepal for that they have to end Monarchy. Girija being puppet used to tie up extreme left and extreme right Please note that the famous Singapore meeting between Girija and Prachanda was organized by S.D. Muni. It was necessary to made Girija god of Maoist. Now they are in second act, they started to put some person to plead that Nepal should accept to marge in Indian Union. Dr. Leo is one actor for that. Due to his foolishness now he will go behind curtain and another actor will take his role. This Ameresh fellow has no part remaining form long time now they are loosing hold on Political Parties so again started to put this fellow in scene. As for fact about Amaresh concern please study his background and please note his wife was deported from Pune Institute. (I suspect she got knowledge what is going on and refuse to be puppet) Now it is time to be alert of Nationalist. I agree that I also fall in foolish trap by answering Leo's post. We should not give attention to such person but we should watch their activities, and aware Nepali (not them) about their intention. Swayambhu Nath Karki please visit regularly www.jana-awaj. com
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Dear Dinesh Sharma Jee Sunday Secretary to Dr. Leo Rebello Namaste Thanks for the article by Dr. Leo Rebello “Common Values from different Religions.” I really do appreciate the sentiment and that is the way to go for humanity. It should have been and it should be. Hoping his good efforts bear fruits for all of us. However, let me point out a few errors and the crux of the problem. First, Religion is not Dharma. Religions are exclusive (the only true way), and are a set of doctrines and behaviors to be believed and obeyed. Dharmas are about seeking truth (Satya) and spiritual disciplines (Yoga). There are many Dharmas evolved in the Indian sub-continent – Shaiva, Vaishnav, Baudha, Jain, Tantra, Sikh etc. Hinduism is neither a Dharma nor a religion but a collection of all these Dharmas. It is a geographical definition. Thus, to put Christianity (a religion), Buddhism (a Dharma) and Hinduism (a collection of Dharmas including Buddhism) as parallel institutes is not correct. Here in lies the problem in discussions. Because, we will be comparing apples and oranges. More importantly only religions (Judaism, Christianity, Islam and Communism) creates problem. Do you know any atheist army, humanist army, Buddhist army, Hare Krishna army? Have you heard about atheists forcing or paying to convert to atheism? But we have Moses attacking Canaan, and Crusade and Jehad in the name of God. Therefore ‘preaching peace’ to all – peaceful and non-peaceful groups, as if they stand in the same footing is not acceptable. You need to preach peace to Pope and Bin Laden, not to Dalai Lama. In Nepal, Churches are systematically using power of money, propaganda and education to convert poor and innocent people, regardless of its consequences, breaking our families and social fabrics apart. Matter of fact, people like Pope are worst than Bin Laden. Here is the crux of the problem. Religions, not Dharma, claim exclusive truth. For them all their co-religionists are brothers and good. And all others are evil and enemies. The only solution is to convert all others by any means. Does total conversion and extermination of others solve the problem? Not really. Evil and terror of religion simply targets its own people and we have – Inquisition. Any realistic solutions to end violence coming out of religions (specifically Christianity and Islam) must deal first with the doctrines motivating such behaviors given in the referendum below. It is not only about bad ideas, but it combining with militancy and power. A Jew or a Brahman may think himself superior, but it is not a problem till he holds a gun. If it is only a matter of attitude, then it can be solved with education and cross-culture exchanges. In any event, the solution starts with recognizing the evil doctrines and repudiating them clearly. Let us consider the basic Christian doctrines: All Christians, no matter how evil, go to heaven. All others, no matter how virtuous, go to hell. A sin can be transferred from one person to another. Can they be true? Dinesh Sharma Jee, it basically is saying that all your virtuous but non-Christian ancestors have gone to hell. Do you agree? Do you have any clue why Taliban dynamited Bamiyan Buddha? Let me attach a few articles for your perusal. Thank you very much. Sincerely, Tilak Shrestha, Ph.D. _________________________________________________________ A. Christianity: Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.” (John 14:6) Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved. (Acts 4:12) For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus. (1 Timothy 2:5) He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. (John 3:16-18) B. Islam: Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends. They are friends with one another. Whoever of you, seeks their friendship shall become one of their number. Allah does not guide the wrong doers. (Quran: Al Ma'idah: 5 - 51) Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last day, nor hold the forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and his messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth from among the People of the Book, until they pay the Jaziyah with willing submission. And feel themselves subdued. (Quran: Al Taubah: 9 - 29) When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them. (Quran: Al Anfal: 8 - 12) Lo! Those who disbelieve, among the people of the Scripture and idolaters, will abide in fire of hell. They are the worst of created beings. (Quran: Al Bayyinah: 98 - 6) When you meet the unbelievers in the Jihad strike off their heads and, when you have laid them low, bind your captives firmly. Then grant them their freedom or take ransom from them, until War shall lay down her burdens. (Quran: Muhammad: 47 - 4) Take him and fetter him and expose him to hell fire. And then insert him in a chain whereof the length is seventy cubits. Lo! He used not to believe in Allah the tremendous, and urged not on the feeding of the wretched. Therefore hath he no lover hear this day nor any food save filth which none but sinners eat. (Quran: Al Haqqah: 69 - 30.37) O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you and let them find harshness in you and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty. (Quran: Al Taubah: 9 - 123) "It is not for any Prophet to have captives until he hath made slaughter in the land. You desire the lure of this world and Allah desires for you the hereafter and Allah is Mighty, Wise. Now enjoy what you have won as lawful and good and keep your duty to Allah. Lo! Allah is forgiving, merciful." (Quran: Al Anfal: 8 - 67.68) The fruit of the Zaqqum tree shall be the unbelievers's fruit. Like dregs of oil, like scalding water, it shall simmer in his belly. A voice will cry: "Seize him and drag him into the depths of Hell." Then pour out scalding water over his head, saying: "Taste this, illustrious and honourable man!" This is the punishment which you have doubted. (Quran: Al Dukhan: 44 - 40.49) For the unbelievers We have prepared chains and fetters and a blazing Fire. (Quran: Al Dahr: 76 - 1.5) Garments of fire have been prepared for the unbelievers. Scalding water shall be poured upon their heads, melting their skins and that which is in their bellies. They shall be lashed rods of iron. Whenever, in their anguish, they try to escape from Hell, back they shall be dragged, and will be told: "Taste the torment of the Conflagration!" (Quran: Al Haj: 22 - 19 & 22 - 23) The unbelievers among the People of the Book and the pagans shall burn for ever in the fire of Hell. They are the vilest of all creatures. (Quran: Al Bayinah: 98 - 1.8)
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