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NamasteNewYork
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Posted on 11-18-07 10:56
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RAJU LAMA A NEPALI POPULAR ARTISTS CAME TO USA IN INVITATION OF HIMALAYAN COMMUNITY OF NEW YORK. HIS FOUR BAND MEMBERS STAYED HERE, AND HIMSELF ALOS STAYED HERE BETTRYING HIS SPONSOR HIMALAYAN COMMUNITY OF NEW YORK. AS A RESULT OF THIS KIND OF INCIDENTS, THE US EMBASSY IN NEPAL REFUSED TO ISSUE VISAS TO NEPALESE ARTISTS. SO, SHOULD WE ENCOURAGE THESE ARTISTS WHO CLOSED DOOR FOR OTHER ARTISTS??????????
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Samsara
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Posted on 11-19-07 12:11
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A/X, I'd just post Mazemyan's first para for your post's rebuttal (Mazemyan, my apologies for using your words without approval). BTW, Why even single out Raju Lama when the list can go on and on forever?
"Sapana Shree, RajaRam, Premraja, Karna Das, Roshan Gurung, and a multitude of other Nepali artists are here in the US (they came promising the US embassy in KTM that they will return). And all of them have the right to be where they want to be and what they want to do. Now, what is the point of picking on Raju Lama?"
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mysteryman2055
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Posted on 11-19-07 12:17
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Absolutely agree with Mazemyan and Samsara.
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A\X
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Posted on 11-19-07 12:19
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Samsara bro/sis,
First of all let me tell you. I didn't expect you to reply my post. Secondly, I said" If you are a celebrity then you have to behave like one" which applies for all of them.
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Samsara
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Posted on 11-19-07 12:24
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A\X sis, you say: " I didn't expect you to reply my post" Whaaa?? You're posting on a public forum for all to see, so expect words to come outta the hat without you ever knowing what its gonna be (unless you're a novice to such conventional wisdom). Also, you go on to mention: " The point is if the US ambassy has really taken the Raju lama thing seriously"...Now what about the other celebs and atrists who "disappeared" into the underground economy here?? All I can say is that your statement does not corroborate you last post in the minutest sense possible.
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MazeMyan
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Posted on 11-19-07 12:32
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No, the US embassy has not taken the "Raju Lama thing" seriously. If they had, they would have picked him up here by now and deported him. He is not hiding. He has put himself in the legal process.
In fact, everytime the US gives someone in Nepal a VISA, the Embassy knows that 80% of the people will not come back. They (US Embassy staff) are not stupid. If they have taken the RL thing seriously, then it could be more because of what those artists who have stayed behind in the US are doing or not doing (not because they stayed behind.)
if you allow an artist from another country to come into yours for good, you expect them to somehow impart the cultural knowledge of that country to your citizens, foster greater understanding of their culture, and such. If these artists start flipping burgers and managing indian restos only and cannot (for reasons out of their control more than the lack of desire) fulfill their responsibility as artists, then what is point of having more singers from Nepal into the US! Give those VISAs to those who dont have special talent so that they make a future here. The artists already have a future in Nepal... looks like the US has realized that now, and thus no VISAs to singers (if that is actually happening).
Genuine tourists (those who will go back), genuine students (those who will actually go to school here and then go back when done), genuine relatives/families of US residents and citizens etc, should get VISAs. Those who are migrating to the US openly after being approved are in a different category. I just don't uderstand why it is such an issue when Nepali "singers" or "artists" or "celebrities" don't get VISAs! Why should they? What more do they bring to the US than a common Nepali? Experiences has perhaps taught the US that they bring nothing special. Or do they? Thousands of Nepali students come here to the US as students and never go back, but the number of students from nepal in the US keeps increasing, doesn't it? Has one Raju Lama not going back stopped the "celebs" from coming to the US! Strange!
Power and Freedom to da people, and Raju Lama is one of them. And yes, I don't know if he claims to be a celebrity. Never heard him say so, but he sings darn well. It is others who want to put him on a pedestal and demand of him things that he does not really want to, or can, deliver. Bitha ma!
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mai_chori_sudari
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Posted on 11-19-07 12:34
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EVERY HUMAN BEING HAS HIS/HER RIGHT WHERE TO LIVE AND HOW TO LIVE. HAAMI NEPALI KO KHUTTA TANNE PRAWIRTI ANI ARU LE GAREKO DEKHI NASAHANE BAANI KAHILYAI NAJAANE BHAYO NI?????
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A\X
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Posted on 11-19-07 12:37
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Samsara sis
"The point is if the US ambassy has really taken the Raju lama thing seriously"-THIS IS AN EXAMPLE.
"If you are a celebrity then you have to behave like one" -THIS IS A CONCLUSION.AND CONCLUSION MATTERS.
Hope it helped you.
"I didn't expect you to reply my post"- THIS MEANS YOU STILL HAVE RIGHT TO POST REPLY, HOWEVER, YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSE TO MENTION MY MY NICK NAME.
COOL DOWN DOGG!!
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mai_chori_sudari
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Posted on 11-19-07 12:44
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"COOL DOWN DOGG!!" kollai bhaneko A\X?? public forum ma sabaile af-afno bichaar rakhna pauchan. What do u meant by DOGG?? You are BOKA, then!!!!!!!!!!!!
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liberty
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Posted on 11-19-07 12:57
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Isn't it strange we are talking about other peoples' personal lives here. ( hello, everyone including celebrities have a personal life) ??? Anyway before we start any discussions, shouldn't we take the following points into consideration:
1) Didnt other Nepali singers come to US this year and performed in various States, Sugam Pokharel, Sabin Rai, Deepesh K. Bhattrai and Co. I guess they had a show in NY as well, must have been organized by the Himalayan Community. Heard from reliable sources, that the show was a thorough disappointment.
So how can we say US Embassy refused visas to other singers based on Raju Lama's case.
2) If the US Embassy started thinking in that terms, then hundreds of students every year would never get visas.
Can we spend some time and think. People get visas based on their merits. You can not blame other people for their own shortcomings.
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Samsara
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Posted on 11-19-07 12:59
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A/X sis lai k bhaako? She says: "I didn't expect you to reply my post"- THIS MEANS YOU STILL HAVE RIGHT TO POST REPLY, HOWEVER, YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSE TO MENTION MY MY NICK NAME."
hahahaha WTF?? THIS IS A PUBLIC FORUM IGNORAMUS, SO ANYTHING GOES...YOU DON'T WANT SOMEONE MENTIONING YOUR PSEUDONYM, THEN STOP POSTING IRRATIONAL COMMENTS THAT WILL GET SHUT DOWN BY ME OR THE OTHERS HERE!! BTW, AIN"T NO ONE COOLER THAN ME, SO I'M CHILLAXING, DOG!!
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MazeMyan
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Posted on 11-19-07 1:05
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Bhanda Kheri... I travel on a US travel document ki..... Nepal le pani visa dina ankanauchha ni! heheheh
Talk about visa problem... They think I might stay back in Nepal... I perhaps wouldn't, unless I get a small flat in Solu Khumbu!
India ta nikkai churifuri garchha... always need a few faxes and letters to the Consul General to get one. Sala ghushkhor haru!
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A\X
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Posted on 11-19-07 1:11
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Samse bro,
bottom line is I didn't want to argue with you. That's wot I mean.You must be clear by now.DOG!
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Samsara
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Posted on 11-19-07 1:14
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Aright Old Navy bro...Point taken!! Ciao.
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Maverick_
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Posted on 11-19-07 1:18
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A?X .. Hope you dont feel my intrusion. what is the reason???
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Samsara
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Posted on 11-19-07 1:20
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hahahha Reinforcements here! Got blank bullets?
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liberty
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Posted on 11-19-07 1:34
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People get a life! If you dont like an artist, then dont go to watch them. But its not good to badmouth them. Why do you want to spend your time doing negative things, instead use that energy to support your favorite artist. Or if you are one of those people who wanted to sing but could not even get 1 note correct, or whose family members could never get a US visa even after trying innumerable times and would like to blame anyone and everyone for their failure, then you are in a sad state.
In short, if you dont like anything then stay away, why do you want to use SAJHA for your personal motive.
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MazeMyan
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Posted on 11-19-07 1:42
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Timro.... Jovaaaan Laaaai
Ho....... Dekhe....ra....
Kach kach gareko ke!
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mai_chori_sudari
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Posted on 11-19-07 1:48
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I agree A\X.
"bottom line is I didn't want to argue with you. That's wot I mean.You must be clear by now.DOG!"
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Samsara
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Posted on 11-19-07 2:45
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Oye khodi, after calling the guy a boka in your earlier post, you now agree with him? hahahhaa Will wonders never cease.
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MadDoGG
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Posted on 11-19-07 4:13
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SO WHATS THE CHALLENGE???????
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