[VIEWED 74873
TIMES]
|
SAVE! for ease of future access.
|
|
|
|
Kalki Kapil
Please log in to subscribe to Kalki Kapil's postings.
Posted on 05-19-06 4:18
PM
Reply
[Subscribe]
|
Login in to Rate this Post:
0
?
|
|
Let us all unite against theanti-Hindu forces in Nepal. CAN WE DO IT? Let us spread message against what is happening to Nepal. WE WANT IT TO REMAIN A HINDU STATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can we unite? This will be the real challenge. Look at how Indian medicos/engineers are uniting against job reservation. Well, OUR RELIGION,HINDUISM THE ODLEST RELIGION IS BEING REMOVED FROM NEPAL. AND NO ONE IS BOTHERED? SICKENING. Do you know what troubles start if this happens. PLEASE ALL WAKE_UP AND SEND A STRONG MESSAGE TO THE CORRUPT & CROOK POLITICIANS IN NEPAL. WE WANT NEPAL TO REMAIN HINDU!!!!!!!!!! SPEAK EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
|
|
|
|
ImI
Please log in to subscribe to ImI's postings.
Posted on 05-23-06 6:46
PM
Reply
[Subscribe]
|
Login in to Rate this Post:
0
?
|
|
what are u talking birkebhai didn't understand what u said. if u r for or against it.if u are for hindu state then democracy is to be able to vote for it.Ability to choose.Even if you are against it ,u should be able to speak and vote against it.did u get it.All pale sale doke toke etc etc is lame excuses just like black in usa curses whites.In the history of the world ,in which place hasn't poor been discriminated .Be practical .Not idealogical .However we should give them opportunity to move up in life and 90% depends on individual.I have seen doctors and engineers from dalit and poor family. yes my fren u r right , democracy should not be only in paper it should not also be in the mouth of girija. actual democracy would have been LET PEOPLE DECIDE and if u cry oh how can that be minority will lose.then be it. thats how world works.Even though Hamas was terrorist organization they were elected democratically in Palestine.was america able to speak.To shut me up thats what SPA should have done .If hindu supportes have lost it .we would accept the defeat.
|
|
|
SHIV
Please log in to subscribe to SHIV's postings.
Posted on 05-23-06 8:38
PM
Reply
[Subscribe]
|
Login in to Rate this Post:
0
?
|
|
Pat, If you want to bring the royals as an example of religious exploitation, fine. The ruling class have always enjoyed all the privileges, regardless of anything else. Where don’t they enjoy extra privileges? Take maobadis for example do you think that Prachanda will get the same treatment as a common party cadre? Of course not. You call this social exploitation? Now replace Prachanda with the king and you will see he is treated differently than others, call this religious exploitation I have nothing to say. There is no denying that religion is exploited by the rulers for their benefit there is also no denying that GPK is also going to exploit the religious sentiments, to please the maobadis. Do you see a parallel here? Chua-chut exists, no denying but there are laws against that, in the existing constitution but it not enforced. Believe it or not it exists. No I did not say that there is no discrimination in Nepal or else where. Discrimination is universal my friend, like it or not. > If you think Nepali Society is secular, then why do we need to call it a "Hindu State?" You are getting close to my argument; my point is why declare it secular where there was no need for it. > Thanks for your advice on searching for my identity but No thanks You are welcome, not really. It does not mater what you believe it or do not believe you cannot deny your roots. What will happen when a root of a tree refuses to feed its branches?? You do not need religion or any ideology to be who you are but I doubt your ancestors felt the same way. Unlike you there are others who love their religion and it becomes part of their identity. I have met with many converted Muslims and they have no problem acknowledging that their ancestors were Hindus; some also go to Hindu temples and pay their respect.
|
|
|
eNigma_too
Please log in to subscribe to eNigma_too's postings.
Posted on 05-23-06 10:32
PM
Reply
[Subscribe]
|
Login in to Rate this Post:
0
?
|
|
ImI, your repeated mention of the action of this declaration being being undemocratic is getting into my nerves. Why don't we have a ballot for each and every of the law in the constitution and see what the people want ? Do you think it is possible ? Obviously not. All the other declaration were fine with you and you rejoiced in the fact that Nepal is a democratic country now, then why not sit back and enjoy the fact it is not only democratic in writing but in action too. When a nation is formed after a long struggle of the people, the constiution is not drafted based on a an "objective type question" paper on what to include in the constuitution that goes for ballot. As Karmapa has mentioned, " WAS THE ACTION OF THE INITIAL DECLARATION OF THE NATION AS A HINDU STATE BASED ON BALLOT?" The answer is no ! The Hindu population was much more smaller then, it was only after the declaration that the hindu population started soaring. The original inhabitant of the country mostly followed shamanism and animism. they were all converted into Hindu, so what is the whole fuss about Hindu religion becoming extinct because it doesn't allow conversion. I am amazed by all these hypocrite people who cry “discrimination’ at the slightest hint, and when there is talk of a secular Nepal, where there will be equality between all religion, it scares them to death. Don’t start with words like,†there is an overall equality when Nepal is a Hindu stateâ€, or “Now, there will be religious warfare because Nepal has been declared a secular stateâ€. So, who are these people who are going to create the disturbances ? Buddhist, Muslim or Christians ? nobody ! If there is a problem anytime in the near future, then it will come from you, from conservative Hindus who are scared to even think of their religion without state sponsorship. Hinduism is not going to be orphan overnight, nor will people start killing cows on the street. There certainly is not going to be anarchy nor a revolution as no oppression or discrimination has taken place..it has only given the right for people of other faith to be a proud Nepali. Shiv, to your question on why the country needs to be secular while there was no need for it, I say there is need for the country to go secular just as much as it had theneed to go democratic from Monarchy. |
|
|
|
Birbhadra
Please log in to subscribe to Birbhadra's postings.
Posted on 05-23-06 10:42
PM
Reply
[Subscribe]
|
Login in to Rate this Post:
0
?
|
|
Converted into hindu how?
|
|
|
ImI
Please log in to subscribe to ImI's postings.
Posted on 05-23-06 10:44
PM
Reply
[Subscribe]
|
Login in to Rate this Post:
0
?
|
|
ENIGIMA TOO .. U DON'T HAVE TO TAKE ANYTHING PERSONAL OUT HERE..DON'T GET ANYTHING INTO U NERVES.. WELL WHEN WE ARE GOING TO GO TO CA, WHAT IS THE HURRY TO DECIDE ON SENSITIVE ISSUE LIKE THIS?.OTHER DECLARATION WHERE FOR POLITICAL BENEFIT.I DON'T WANT TO SHARE MY INSTANCE ON ALL ISSUES THERE MIGHT BE ANOTHER DISPUTE. SO ,WHAT'S SO SCARY ABOUT GOING TO GO TO CA FOR THIS ISSUE?I ASK U?YES U R RIGHT THAT TIME IT WAS NOT THROUGH ELECTION AND U CONSIDER THAT THERE WAS NO THEN .NOW WE HAVE DEMOCRACY AND U THINK THIS IS HOW WE SHOULD DECIDE WHEN MOST OF THE POPULATION DON'T WANT IT.LOOK AT PRESENT NOT PAST.LIKE THAT I CAN GIVE U MILLIONS OF EXAMPLE "ONE UNDEMOCRATIC STEP IS NOT JUSTIFIED BY ANOTHER UNDEMOCRATIC STEP." IF U KILL SOMEBODY THEN U SHOULD BE KILLED TOO??I DON'T BELIEVE IN THAT MAY BE U DO.THEN DON'T CALL UR SELF DEMOCRAT.IF U DON'T CALL UR SELF DEMOCRAT THEN I AM FINE WITH UR STAND.
|
|
|
eNigma_too
Please log in to subscribe to eNigma_too's postings.
Posted on 05-23-06 11:04
PM
Reply
[Subscribe]
|
Login in to Rate this Post:
0
?
|
|
Birbhadra, I meant to say assimilation.
|
|
|
Harkey
Please log in to subscribe to Harkey's postings.
Posted on 05-24-06 12:04
AM
Reply
[Subscribe]
|
Login in to Rate this Post:
0
?
|
|
What a distortion of the historic fact? How come the shamanism and animism followers were converted to hinduism, as in Hinduism people are born Hindu. Rather hindus immigrated in a large numbers from southwards to Nepal and got settled here. And If there was a case of conversion to Hinduism, now in Nepal there would be only hindus as in Pakistan and other predominantly muslim countries the percentage of other religion is miniscule. Aren't there any shamanism and animism followers left in Nepal? Rather, in Nepal, other religions coexisted with hinduism. Though there lies the caste discrimination within Hinduism, Hinduism is one of the most tolerant religion towards other religions in the world. No one knows what would be the gain or loss from secularism, but the statement like these to blame Hinduism and to name Hindus as hardcore followers are certainly a by-product of this action by SPA. Why would other religion start a warefare with Hinduism, as right now they are in minority? Were people from other beliefs feeling alienated in Nepal? Were they stopped from celebrating Christmas or Id or not welcomed in Dashain Tihar celebration? Did Hindus try to supress other beliefs even though it is in majority? No, and they shouldn't. Don't blame Hinduism just to prove your support for secularism. Secularism is a good thing, but to support that one shouldn't point finger or falsely blame other's faith and practice.
|
|
|
Harkey
Please log in to subscribe to Harkey's postings.
Posted on 05-24-06 12:07
AM
Reply
[Subscribe]
|
Login in to Rate this Post:
0
?
|
|
But one question remains, was secularism so necessary for Nepal at this stage? Were Hindu people so much oppressive towards other faith? Not at all.
|
|
|
karmapa
Please log in to subscribe to karmapa's postings.
Posted on 05-24-06 1:32
AM
Reply
[Subscribe]
|
Login in to Rate this Post:
0
?
|
|
Amrit Joshi writes above: < > My response to Amrit Joshi: You still believe that crap about 'religious harmony' which you probably learnt from the texts which are a throwback to the Panchayati era? “Religious harmony†is a sham, a smokescreen, a deception. There is no 'religious harmony' in the Hindu state- there is state-sanctioned discrimination based on religion. You’re reasoning is no different than saying hey let’s reinstate "Hindu" tag on Nepal so that any potential religious conflicts or violence may be averted in future. It is like saying: "Hey let's reinstate Saddam Hussein (dictator) as President of Iraq because at least under him we didn’t hear about sectarian violence between the Sunnis and Shiites.†What logic!!! This is the kind of logic that the fundamentalist Hindus put forward to resist change! Why should we be scared that under "Secular Nepal", there will be BJPIsation of Nepal or religious conflicts? You know what, conflicts sometimes lead to positive changes - they should be welcomed! If "Secular Nepal" is going to open up a can of worms, so be it! Under "loktantra" too there will probably be more conflicts, and surely more demands from the aggrieved/ the marginalized/the discriminated? Does that mean we should do away with "loktantra" too? Hey Amrit, what's wrong with Christians using money from Europe/North America to convert. It's their money. Their approach is better/more ethical than that of the Hindu state: You know what the Hindu state does? It collects taxes from peoples of all religions and uses them to subsidize Hindu fundamentalist orgs (Nepal Chapters of Shiva Sena and VHP and thousands of other institutions that have come up like mushroom), Sanskrit Universities, and high school level Sanskrit education (which is probably still compulsory for all Nepali students). Sanksrit: the worst subject I ever took. This is a clear case of the Hindu state practicing discrimination based on religion! Not to mention how much the palace has spent visiting temples and Hindu congregations when the country was bleeding. People are dying, and the palace people are visiting temples. So much of people's money has been misused - and you dare to point fingers at Missionaries? Re: Christianity, I have nothing against conversion. If people want to convert or be converted, it is their human right. Freedom of religion is a human right - a triumph of 'free will' over ‘determinism’. Why must the Dalits stay Dalits under oppressive/suffocating Nepali Hindu society - i.e. be a victim of determinism? Many are converting: this is liberation. . Not only Dalits. Father Sharmas and Father Upadhyas are preaching Christianity as pastors in churches across Nepal. At least they are not misusing the state money to do what they do best. -------------- To Matyangro: I'm not worried about what CA decides. The declaration is only a statement of intent. I'm only arguing why "Secular Nepal" makes good sense. I'm saying it is actually good for the Hindus. But they are burying their heads in the sand! -------------- IMI, you say what SPA did [declaring Nepal a secular state] was undemocratic. I say it was not "undemocratic". What the SPA did was "undo" the undemocratic thing that the King and HIS Chamchas had done to Nepal long ago: i.e. foist the "Hindu tag" on the country in the most undemocratic fashion. --------------
|
|
|
SHIV
Please log in to subscribe to SHIV's postings.
Posted on 05-24-06 2:08
AM
Reply
[Subscribe]
|
Login in to Rate this Post:
0
?
|
|
This is kinda long but worth a read ------------------------------------------- 'Secular Nepal' finds itself in the eye of controversy In a bid to appease minorities, the seven party alliance is likely to end up offending the Hindu majority By Pratibedan Baidya Last Thursday, within hours of the reinstated House of Representatives (HoR) proclaiming curtailment of royal powers and bringing the army under the purview of the parliament, among others, victory rallies were carried out across the country. But the proclamation of the HoR to declare Nepal a secular country are likely to ruffle many feathers over the long period of time. Some Hindu groups took to the streets in the southern town of Birgunj on Monday denouncing the parliament's decision to turn the world's only Hindu kingdom into a secular state. They also demanded that the country be declared a Hindu kingdom once again. Despite being a predominantly Hindu kingdom, Nepal is known for religious harmony and tolerance across the world. Even when communal riots were spread in its neighbourhood in India—in the aftermath of the demolition of the Babri mosque by a group of Hindu fundamentalists in Ayodhya in the nineties—Nepal remained calm and peaceful. Talking to Nepalnews, Chintamani Yogi, Principal of Hindu Vidyapeeth—Nepal (HVP-N) said that the need of the hour is to ensure safe landing of the Maoist insurgency. "We should not extend support to the King unnecessarily in the name of 'Hindu rastra' (Hindu nation) but he cautioned that the parliament's decision to declare Nepal as a secular state could give chances for the regressive to unite under the banner of Hinduism. "At a time when we are facing burning socio-economic and constitutional problems, it seems as if we are applying wrong medication to a place where there was no need for it," he added. Yogi further cautioned that Missionary activities could flare up in the days to come in the aftermath of Nepal being declared a secular state and age-old harmony among various religious groups within the country could be endangered. "Muslim brothers sell bangles to Hindu sisters in front of Krishna temple in Lalitpur. Such a harmony might be destroyed if we try to politicize religious matters," he warned. The decision of the Nepali parliament to declare the country as a secular state has offended pro-Hindu political forces in India. India's main opposition party, the Bharatiya Janata Party (BPJ), 'regretted' the recent development "Nepal's Hindu identity has nothing to do with the monarchy. The Nepali parliament should not have omitted that word. There are over 50 countries in the world who proudly call themselves as Islamic Republic," reports quoted BJP leader V K Malhotra as saying. Sociologist Dr. Krishna Bahadur Bhattachan, however, describes the decision historic saying that the decision to announce Nepal as a secular state has ended the fear of violence due to the religion. "All religious communities-- except some Hindus who were misusing state fund in the name of Hinduism—have hailed the decision, as now onwards there will be equality among all religions," he added. Dr. Bhattachan said that since all major political forces in the country were in favour of secularism, it would also help in resolving the conflict in the country. "The declaration should be implemented properly and there should not be discrimination in the name of religion. If some people try to protest the decision, people will punish them," he warned. The CPN (Maoist) has, right from the beginning, has been advocating for a secular Nepal. Analysts say the Maoist policy seems to have been driven from the fact that majority of its guerrillas come from the dalit and ethnic communities, who have age-old grievances towards high-caste Hindus. In his book, "Towards a Democratic Nepal" published last year, scholar Mahendra Lawoti argues that the source of racism and sexism in the (1990) constitution of Nepal is the declaration of the state as Hindu. Articles 11.2 and 11.3 state that the Constitution is against discrimination based on religion, yet, Article 4 explicitly declared Nepal as a Hindu state. "The declaration of the state as Hindu provides sustenance and support to the discriminating traditions and values and contributes in the continuation of the social and legal discriminations," Lawoti wrote. Minority communities in Nepal have hailed the HoR proclamation terming it as a bold step. Dr. K. B. Rokaya, General Secretary of National Council of Churches of Nepal—a representative body of all Churches in the country—said the proclamation was positive, adding, "There should be religious freedom in the country and people should have opportunity to adopt any religion they prefer." "Muslim brothers sell bangles to Hindu sisters in front of Krishna temple in Lalitpur. Such a harmony might be destroyed if we try to politicize religious matters." - Chintamani Yogi, HVP-Nepal "India is a secular country but there are limitations in exercising religious freedom. Secularism alone will not resolve the problem. Hence, focus should be given to the religious freedom," said Rokaya, who is also the vice-president of Inter Religious Council Nepal, a representative body of all religions in the country. Rokaya alleged that some religious groups were posing threats to the nationality and national identity, so the government should set up a Ministry of Religious Affairs or Department of Religious Affairs to regulate and coordinate among different religious groups. Hindu leaders are, however, furious and blame the SPA of betraying the country. Bharat Keshar Simha, chairman of World Hindu Federation (WHF), said that the decision was illegal and a conspiracy against the country. Simha-- who had advocated an active role for monarchy and claimed that Hindu King was above the law—said the decision was taken by a handful of people and would not acceptable to all the Nepalis. "If political parties are convinced that the state should be declared secular, they should have courage to go for a referendum and get people's mandate rather than making a proclamation in an illegal way," he added. "The declaration of the state as Hindu provides sustenance and support to the discriminating traditions and values and contributes in the continuation of the social and legal discriminations." - Mahendra Lawoti, scholar Simha further said that WHF would organize various protest programmes against the decision and would also take to the street to protest what he called the "unconstitutional declaration" of the House of Representatives. Swami Dhruba—a Kathmandu-based Hindu preacher-- said that this was a very wrong decision on part of the reinstated House. "Majority Hindus have never created problems for people belonging to other religions while Nepal was a Hindu kingdom. Secularism might bring various problems in the country," he warned. Swami Dhruba disclosed that various Hindu groups were currently holding meetings and were in direct touch with Hindu religious leaders of India to chart out future strategies. "We will not remain silent and continue to expose the policy of appeasement," he warned. nepalnews.com May 24 06 Have your say ! (Registration required) http://www.nepalnews.com/archive/2006/others/feature/may/news_feature07.php
|
|
|
karmapa
Please log in to subscribe to karmapa's postings.
Posted on 05-24-06 3:23
AM
Reply
[Subscribe]
|
Login in to Rate this Post:
0
?
|
|
They say that all that religious violence happened in India because of its secularism. Secularism is being made a convenient scapegoat without any rhymes or reasons. The BJP-Party in India engineered massacres of Muslims from Ayodhya to Gujarat to whip up Hindu fundamentalist nationalism to come to power - and now they warn Nepal that under "Secular Nepal" more of the same will happen. Hey, these guys are holding Nepal hostage. They, are in effect saying, we will incapacitate Nepal unless its government redeclares Nepal as a "Hindu state"? And they are not saying you can blame us for that – but you have only your ‘secular status’ to blame? This is blackmailing Nepal. This is what I meant when I said using the Hinduttva card, India wants to meddle in Nepal's politics and destiny. And like I have argued the Nepali Hindus in Sajha are playing right into the hands of these India-based fundamentalist orgs and political parties and their stooges (best exemplified by Bharat Keshar Simha) in Nepal That all that religious violence in India happened/happens owing to India's secular status per se has NEVER been properly established. As a student of econometrics, I would go as far as to say that is not even possibly to credibly establish this relationship. The rise of religious violence in India happened because the only way BJP, Shiva Sena, VHF and the like can come to power is if they engineer massacres of Muslims, Dalits and chamars. And yet they want to blame it all on Secularism. I feel sorry for the Nepali Hindus for playing right into their hands. Any wonder that the Nepali Hindu priests play second fiddles to the Bhattas from South India at Pashupati Nath temple. “Hindu Nepal†benefits India-based Hindu fanatics primarily – and their stooges in Nepal secondarily. The rest of us, whether Hindus, Muslims or whatever, lose!
|
|
|
ImI
Please log in to subscribe to ImI's postings.
Posted on 05-24-06 7:42
AM
Reply
[Subscribe]
|
Login in to Rate this Post:
0
?
|
|
What the SPA did was "undo" the undemocratic thing that the King and HIS Chamchas had done to Nepal long ago: i.e. foist the "Hindu tag" on the country in the most undemocratic fashion. "ONE UNDEMOCRATIC STEP IS NOT JUSTIFIED BY ANOTHER UNDEMOCRATIC STEP." IF U KILL SOMEBODY THEN U SHOULD BE KILLED TOO??I DON'T BELIEVE IN THAT MAY BE U DO.THEN DON'T CALL UR SELF DEMOCRAT.IF U DON'T CALL UR SELF DEMOCRAT THEN I AM FINE WITH UR STAND. MAY BE IT WOULD BE RIGHT IF THEY HAD USED DEMOCRACTIC PROCESS TO DO SO.WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEM AND SPA?
|
|
|
Harkey
Please log in to subscribe to Harkey's postings.
Posted on 05-24-06 9:09
AM
Reply
[Subscribe]
|
Login in to Rate this Post:
0
?
|
|
Sanskrit is the mother of a lot of languages spoken in this region. Rather than protesting government spending money on Sanskrit, it would be wise to ask for similar funding for other language studies too. Nepal has always been a safe haven for all beliefs. Has not been that, why Nepal has been providing the freedom loving Tibetans a respected refuse? Even schools like Tashi Namgyal School which teaches Tibetan scripture has been recognized and helped by the state. I am not saying it is bad, it is a good thing from the state. Similarly state should invest in Newari, maithali, etc. etc. language. So, why single out Sanskrit? It is our heritage, if one finds it hard to learn, at least don't hate it. If it was not for Sanskrit, Nepali language wouldn't have been there. The funding from temples come from the worshippers who are Hindus and not from anyone else; the embezzlement of the fundings is another issue to be concerned about. It is very sad to see how many in Nepal have adverse feeling towards Hinduism. The complaints from Dalit janajatis is justified as they haven't been treated well by the upper casts, but the tirades from other beliefs .....unbelievable. Again, don't blame Hinduism to support Secularism, there might be other true and just reasons you can use to defend secularism, as this word in itself is a good and meaningful word. Even from the long list of discussions, we can see, how SPA's action has instigated conflicting ideas and streams of blamings among us, which wasn't there before.
|
|
|
BathroomCoffee
Please log in to subscribe to BathroomCoffee's postings.
Posted on 05-24-06 10:27
AM
Reply
[Subscribe]
|
Login in to Rate this Post:
0
?
|
|
What about them Inhumane Animal Sacrificial Ceremonies ? That is supposed to be very PC huh ! WTF is this BULL about Hindu's being the most peaceful religion in the wole. he he descrimination btween the different castes, constant bickwering and power clashes amongst the elites, and the bloody war with the Muslims in India. he he Peaceful MA ASS !!
|
|
|
nepesahila
Please log in to subscribe to nepesahila's postings.
Posted on 05-24-06 10:52
AM
Reply
[Subscribe]
|
Login in to Rate this Post:
0
?
|
|
Karmapa, Can you please provide the sources to the materials you are making us read here and misguiding the sajha readers? Where did you get the information from that the state has been funding Hindu organizations? And I object on making sanskrit compulsory in high school but I favor government spending money on promoting and preserving it. You know it is one of the most important ancient languages in the world to study. It is not only Hindu countries like Nepal, but England, Germany and many other countries in the world who spend their tax money to teach Sanskrit. You want to welcome religious conflict in Nepal for the sake of bringing change? Now political conflict isn't enough? 'Sanskrit is the worst subject I ever took' re. Yes, it is hard and almost impossible to pass for non-Hindus. But remember those who have the basic background of sanskrit are very likely to be better in Nepali and in linguistic intelligence. On Christianity, I am not against conversion if the people give very less value to faith and don't believe on it. But all these missionaries do is literally bribe them to change religion and leave them on their own. Now, as a result of serious innermost confusion, many of those converted people are having mental disorder. And most of those father Sharmas and father Upadhyayas are only after money or those dalits who were titled so, just to encourage other innocent Hindus for conversion.(See, now even Brahmans follow us). One last time for misguiding people, all Nepali Hindus love Nepal and Nepali. No BHP or BJP can change our belief against our Nationalism. If you really want to raise voice, make it against the loot like in Pashupati and other previleged positions and everyone will co-operate. May god bless you.
|
|
|
Pats
Please log in to subscribe to Pats's postings.
Posted on 05-24-06 10:55
AM
Reply
[Subscribe]
|
Login in to Rate this Post:
0
?
|
|
It is so ironical that Hindus in Sajha are provoking violence from Fundamentalists in India if Nepal becomes a secular country. It almost seems that they will be happy if fundamentalists wage war over religion in Nepal. On the other hand the same Hindus in Sajha are the first to claim Hindus as being peaceful, and Buddha was born in Nepal? Isn't that a double standard? Isn't it hypocritical of you Hindus in Sajha to take as much as advantage of the fact that Buddha was born in Nepal but at the same time want to dominate all other religion with help from the State?
|
|
|
deja_blue
Please log in to subscribe to deja_blue's postings.
Posted on 05-24-06 10:57
AM
Reply
[Subscribe]
|
Login in to Rate this Post:
0
?
|
|
This guy is trying to get attention. he has been posting same thread for so many days. I am sick of this guy. this guy should be thrown out of sajha. this guy do not deserve to be in sajha.
|
|
|
deja_blue
Please log in to subscribe to deja_blue's postings.
Posted on 05-24-06 11:05
AM
Reply
[Subscribe]
|
Login in to Rate this Post:
0
?
|
|
DUDE WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE WEATHER OR NOT NEPAL HAS THAT LABEL "HINDU NATION IN THE WORLD" WHAT GOOD DOES IT DO TO THE PEOPLE. WHY ARE YOU SO WORRIED ABOUT IT. PPL ARE STILL FREE TO PRACTISE WHATEVER RELIGION THEY WANT TO. NOONE IS MAKING YOU MUSLIM OR CHRISTIAN. I DONT KNOW WHY SPA CAME UP WITH THIS IDEA. PERHAPS IT WAS ONE OF MAOISTS DEMANDM, PERHAPS THEY DONT WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN PEACE TALK OR WHATEVER IF NEPAL IS NOT CONSIDERED SECULAR. SEE THE DYNAMIC OF THE SITUATION. IN ONE HAND PEACE IS THE PRIME ESSENCE OF THE COUNTRY, GOVERNMENT MAY HAVE MADE SOME COMPROMISE. WHATS WRONG WITH THAT. NEPAL HAS BEEN UNIQUE FOR SO LONG. IN TERMS OF HINDU NATION. IN TERMS OF FLAG. IN TERMS OF MT. EVEREST IN TERMS OF SO MANY THINGS. BUT WHATS THE POINT OF BEING UNIQUE IF THE COUNTRY IS STILL ONE OF THE POOREST IN THE WORLD, IF HALF OF THE WORLD THINKS THAT IT IS AN INDIAN STATE, IF OUT OF 200 YEARS , WASNT STABLE, DEMOCRATIC, AND NEVER BEEN A PROGRESSIVE STATE. WHATS THE POINT OF THAT UNIQUNESS. AS LONG AS PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE FEAR TO LIVE HOW THEY WANT, PRACTICE WHAT THEY WANT AND PROGREES THEIR LIFE BEING WITHIN THE LAW AND ORDER , ITS GOOD ENOUGH. HONESTLY, I AM GLAD THAT I AM FROM NEPAL. BUT I AM NOT PROUD ANYMORE TO TELL ME THAT I AM NEPALI. WHAT IS THERE TO BE PROUD OF. LETS FORGET ABOUT UNIQUENESS, RELIGION AND LETS PROGESS TOWARDS BETTER OF ALL THE PEOPLE IN THE COUNTRY. JAI NEPAL
|
|
|
BathroomCoffee
Please log in to subscribe to BathroomCoffee's postings.
Posted on 05-24-06 11:13
AM
Reply
[Subscribe]
|
Login in to Rate this Post:
0
?
|
|
DEJA BLUE JUST LIKE YOU I AM SICK OF YOU TOO. SO SHUT THE FUG UP ! ITS A FREE WWW YOU CAN SAY WHAT YOU WANT NO ONE IS HOLDING YOU BACK. HE HE GO AHEAD SPILL YO GUTS SON !! HE HE JUST LIKE YOU I HAVE THE FUKING RIGHT TO SAY WHAT I WANT SO SHUT THE FUG UP!! SOB
|
|
|
birkhe03
Please log in to subscribe to birkhe03's postings.
Posted on 05-24-06 12:02
PM
Reply
[Subscribe]
|
Login in to Rate this Post:
0
?
|
|
Imi, I am not in favor of Hindu country of Nepal, I am in favor of Secular state of Nepal, only in secular state every body is free to practice whatever they believe in, we should learn to understand the value of ther person.
|
|