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bahunkto
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Posted on 01-06-07 9:45
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Marwari community wants their representation in interim parliament Marwari community has also demanded their share in the forthcoming interim parliament, which is to be formed after the promulgation of interim constitution. Speaking at the national convention of Nepal National Marwari Council, its acting chairman Atma Ram Murarka said that the community, too, has decided to enter into politics and demanded at least two seats for the community in the interim legislature. Deputy Prime Minister Amik Sherchan, addressing the concluding session of the council, assured the representation of Marwari community in the interim parliament. Marwari community is a leading business community of the country. The interim parliament has been proposed to include 330 members – 48 of whom will be nominated to represent various organisations and communities. nepalnews.com sd Jan 06 07 aba dekhyo ta raja birodh garna yini haru kina agadi ayeko hola. aba dekhyo ta jaat anusar ko thau magda bideshi le pani magda raichan bhanera.
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Captain Haddock
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Posted on 01-09-07 10:09
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"If marwaris r nepalis, if biharis r nepalese.. who r we? who r we pahadeys(gorkheys) " "We" are Nepalese too! Why does that have to be mutually exclusive? And no one is saying all Biharis are Nepalese . But there are lots of Madesis living for generations in Nepal of Bihari heritage who are as Nepali as any Bahun, Chettri, Newar or setamagurali. I am curious to know what exactly you plan to do with those you call "Biharis" who are so undeserving of being Nepalese? Ethnic cleansing hasn't worked anywhere in the world - any other ideas? As to Rahulvai's post quoting you, some might challenge your hypothesis, but I will say that comment is much more rational than some of the other ones I read. Obviously, you are capable of a good level of debate and if I have other issues that I want to challenge you on, it will be a pleasure for me to do so. For now, I'd like to hear what we should do about Madesis in Nepal if we are not to give them the citizenship that we have denied them for so long.
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Posted on 01-09-07 10:33
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Rahulvai wrote: ""यहाँ निर बुझ्नु पर्ने कुरा के छ भने, मारवाडिलाई नेपाल् भित्र्याए कस्ले? काठ्माडौका नेवार ब्यापारीहरुलाई (जस्को तिब्बत देसको ब्यापारमा प्रभुत्व थियो) बिस्थापन् गर्न अथवा भनुम् सजाय दिन हिदुस्तान् बाट् मारवाडिलाई ज्ञानेकै पूर्खाले रातो कार्पेट् बिछ्याइ स्वागत् गरेको तीतो सत्य भूल्न मिल्छ र?" I think this is false. But even if this is indeed true, so what? How much juice are we going to squeeze out of what might have happened in the 1800s and the 1900s? More to the point, when we, as a nation, keep on looking backward, how will we ever learn to look foward? After all, it's hard to be looking backward and forward at the same time. It's fair to say that the Nepali business world has moved on a lot to become, on the whole, a lot more competitive than what it was in the 1800s or the 1900s. True, there is still NOT much competition in many sectors in Nepal, and some people/groups, for various reasons, are still enjoying unfair monopoly returns at the expense of the consumers or the janata. Sure, these monopoly or monopoly-like situations need to be corrected so that more Nepalis get to play the game of business fairly and win and lose on the dint of their own efforts-- but that's a broader policy issue for us to tackle and NOT a narrow Marwari (or ethnic) issue to get hung up on. **** "मारवाडि समाजकै प्रभावशालि ब्यक्ति मोहन् गोपाल् खेतानको माघ् १९ पछि ज्ञानेको समर्थनमा दिएका अन्तर्वार्ता सम्झम् त।" Again, so what? MGK, as a Marwari citizen of Nepal, was and is FREE to express his support for, or, for that matter, contempt of the king in any manner he chooses. You may not like what he said, and that's fine. But we cannot go around censoring people to say only the things we love to hear in the name of some perverse 'democracy'.. It's one thing to say what MGK said was right or wrong, but to link it up with Marwaris' call for some hearing in the interim parliament and use it as an example of some greater conspiracy afoot is show how insecure and nervous and not at all confident we are about our own collective abilities to dream and work toward a having a brave new Nepal in days ahead. And I find that sad. oohi ashu
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bahunkto
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Posted on 01-09-07 10:37
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biharis arent nepali. bihar hamro ho ta? maile uhile pani post gareko thiye..nepali ta jo pani huna sakcha tara "gorkha" jun nepal ko namthiyo kehi dashak agadi samma nepal ka pahadey ra madesh ka nepali matra lai bhanna sakincha. tharu, rajbangsi,batar...satar lai bhandina kina ki satar JHARKHAND bata ayeko payincha. majhi ho ..aaru lai kina manne? tyeso bhaye tamilnadu bata tamil aula ma pani nepali bhanla ani uniharu le pani parliament ma magla dine ta? bihar ma ayeko bihari le 3 mahina ma nepali bolna sakdo rahecha. usle ayera hajur mera bau baje yeha baseka chan malai ahile samma nagarikta diyeko chaina. ma ghar mai janmeko garib ko beta bhako le garda janma darta garna sakina ma anpadh pani chu. bhanyo bhane uslai pani diney ta? ghumna aaun hamro chalan cha ra uhile dekhi ko bhanai cha "aatithi devo bhawa" tara aatithi nai rahesamma ramro ni ta haina..aatithi ayera gharayesi kura ma dakhal dine, ayera ghar bhitra mero pani hak hunu parcha bhanne? Nepal lai aru desh sanga dajhna mildaina tyo ta sabaile mannuhuncha ni, ra yo aru kura nepal bhitra lagu garna mildaina. america lai pani dherai samaya lagyo yetti ko unnati garna. west ko concept east ma lagdaina..ani tyo desh jus sano cha ra dui dhunga bich ko tarul ho tiha ta lagdai lagdaina. baru hak ko kura nai garne ho bhane hamrai daju bhai lai dinda dherai ramro(bhutani saranarthi) ra bharat ma baseka sabai nepali haru lai nepali nagarikta. 30 lakh bihari le paudaichan huna sakcha tyesma kunai nepali pani parla..nepali lai dinda kei chaina. aba 30 lakh yettro sano desh ma bhaneko sano kura hoina. 30 lakh not a joke. newar haru ko janasankhya nai 1 million ko haka haki ma cha. 30 lakhs bhaneko nepal ko ahile ko approx 11 percent janasankhya. india bhaneko mahasagar ho nepal bhaneko euta sano nadi ho. nadi ko pani sagar ma misida kasaile thaha pani paudaina tara sagar ko pani nadi ma ayo bhane hahakar machincha. bahun ko choro
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Captain Haddock
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Posted on 01-09-07 10:46
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What a load of BS! What clock do you run on? In case you forgot, the law , even the Panchayati one, does not take into account ethnicity when determining citizenship. Get back from la la land. And how about answering what we should do with them?
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bahunkto
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Posted on 01-09-07 10:54
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uni haru lai PR diye huncha ..kam garna aune lai nagarikta diyera kina pathaune..workpermit diye huncha. ani yedi citizen bhaka chan bhane kei kura lai dhyan ma rakhera pheri arko naya pratilipi banaune...u might run on U.S of A clock but i run typical Nepali ghanta ghars clock.
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bahunkto
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Posted on 01-09-07 10:55
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yesto kura ma liberal bhayera kam chaina..ahile samma j dekhnu pareko cha yestai liberal sochai le garda ho. jai nepal..
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bahunkto
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Posted on 01-09-07 11:02
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huna ta tyo tapai ko ramro dharana ho..tara kaile kai paristhiti le garda afno dharana lai kuchliyera hinnu parcha ra aakha agadi j cha tyeslai angalnu parcha. tapai ko sochai naramro haina captain..dherai nai ramro cha..tara yo kura nepal ma lagu hunna ra huna dinu hunna. desh ko suput ra kuput bhaneko k ho thaha nai hola? kunai dinn BHUTAN ko jastai goli khanda ani bhagnu parda chetnu huncha tapai ko jasto sochai bhako manche haru le. ani aucha mann ma ani sodhnu huncha ma k huh ra kaha bata ayeko bhanera..ani hernu huncha aafa daju bhai haru ko pidha...aafno bhumi ma afulai lakhteko dinn herna chahanu jasto ho... kaile pani uuttar ra dakshin ko milap hundaina. ma chai yo geet ko time ko parey chu jasto lagcha. gaucha geeta nepali jyoti ko pankha uchali.jaya jaya hey nepal sundara shanta bishal..paschima killa kangada purba ma tista pugeythiyem kun shakti ko samu ma kahile hami jhukey thiyem..sita le sara bhijayin dakshin lanka bharata..bhrikuti tara udaiyin uuttar china tibeta..buddha le yehi payethe gyana ko pahilo ........ shiva le yehi layethe shristi ko pahile bihana. lyric tala mathi bhayo hola maff paun. bahun ko choro
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Captain Haddock
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Posted on 01-09-07 11:14
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"Uni haru lai PR diye huncha ..kam garna aune lai nagarikta diyera kina pathaune..workpermit diye huncha. ani yedi citizen bhaka chan bhane kei kura lai dhyan ma rakhera pheri arko naya pratilipi banaune..." Why am I not suprised at the answer? Ok, then riddle me this : how exactly are you going to find out who is Bihari and who is not? Don't tell me by how they look - half the country looks that way. Anyways, it would be against both domestic and international law as far as I can think to go on an ethnic witch hunt of that magnitude. "u might run on U.S of A clock but i run typical Nepali ghanta ghars clock. " If this topic weren't so serious, I'd be tempted to laugh out loud at that comment. Based on your comments, and your comments alone, I'd say that can't be true because Ghantaghar was not there in the 17th century. "Yesto kura ma liberal bhayera kam chaina..ahile samma j dekhnu pareko cha yestai liberal sochai le garda ho. jai nepal.. " This is not a matter of being liberal or conservative: it is a matter of being real and practical. And yes, Jai Nepal! ( why not?) But sabaiko Nepal - not that of a bigoted few.
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MadDoGG
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Posted on 01-09-07 11:20
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so capt i finally found some common grounds with you....you are correct...... we are worried for the future of our country not the past..we should not get stuck in how Nepals history was shaped....lets take it out of our schools and books too...its not impottant Right???..WE should believe in Electing someone we can bring down if we wanted(the people).....yet..again .....I have seen how election goes in Nepal and I have no trust in that system any more IF we keep re electing the same bloodsuckers again and again...............we seem to do that a lot...dont we??? you say......that.... We cannot throw the king but look at the present situation........the king has been stripped of his powers ......and if you recall it was done before too..with king Birendra........and so came democracy........which brings us today..........so there is you answer the king bows down to the people...... .......we Nepalese have a way of getting the king to strip down from his power again and again ....if we( people) collectively want ....so we kinda controll that too......of course dont tell me that the political leaders had nothing to do with that................ this is the modern era.........look at Great Briton and how proud the royal family lives....they symbolize Briton.....they live in luxury.......everybody loves them.....And also the have good leaders who stand by their promise and deliver to the citizens accordingly...whats wrong with us ??????.........we get cheated again and again by the same Netas....I dont know for sure who is better.....but as long as I remember..... Nepal has gone from bad to worse when we elected these netas....dont you think so.....?? and you still have hope from them....thats sad.......and thats what fuels these bloodsuckers to come right back from their graves........to rape us .................oh the names you provided.......you must be kidding.............by naming those people above tells me where you come from and what you think......................you have a right to your chioces......I just think they are STALE.........and STINKY....you have a love hate relation huh??/ you are sofull of it ............As for your remarks for Dimple........it shows how you get into pointless remarks........when you dont have anything sensible...... you try too hard.................Do you always have to win in a conversation wether you are right or wrong?????..............by the way I have a right to support my beliefs as much as you do.............the difference is................you live in the world of hope .....I live in reality..........and yes I know the royals are no longer in power so you dont have to repeat that to me............I know where I stand....Jai Nepal
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Captain Haddock
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Posted on 01-09-07 11:30
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Do you honestly want me to reply, Maddog?
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bhimu
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Posted on 01-09-07 11:34
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In Nepali proverb.... " Babu dusta hudaina Newar ista (saathi) hudai na..." Is it true?
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bahunkto
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Posted on 01-09-07 11:36
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captain na tapai sanga mero kuna dushmani cha..tara tapai lai euta sacho kura. u r not well. personality disorder jasto cha. aafu matra right aru sabai wrong, afu le baneko kura sabai le mannu parne. maile mero kura mannu bhaneko ta chaina ..maile ta jus kura lai sabai samu share gareko..tapai ta artha hinn kura lai liyera jun reply rahulvai lai thiyo ayera malai amla uthaunu bhayo. sabia bhanda mathi tapai sanga ko suru ko kura ma k lekheko thiye..badh bibad ko sanga garnu parcha re? yeha ta badh bibad haina tapai ko bhitra bata bibad matra airaheko cha..post something logical jun kura lai arule katna nasakos. post some real stuffs. give some examples to prove it. n if u fail that wont b bad either..tapai ko lagi sajha ko thread ko kura kani jivan mritue tulya hundo rahecha ki k ho.. mind nagarnus hai..tapai lai chot purayeko haina maile..tapai ko bani lai judge gareko..bani le manche banaucha ra boli le manche chinaucha.uhile pani bhanisakeko kura ho yo pani.narisaunus hai.. jai nepal.. bahun ko choro
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bahunkto
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Posted on 01-09-07 11:38
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ekdui ootai post ma kasto bhanera chinihalincha ni hainta ta dajjai
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Posted on 01-09-07 11:45
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bahunkto you got that all right .....capt here thinks that he is the most correct person in this world....rest of us just have opinions and he decides whether they are valid or not..............and capt......please respond............you do not need my permission ...as if you needed it in the first place.........and as for what you might write...I have an Idea............you will ridicule my points....as you normally do to others....and add yours pointless beliefs of HOPE and think you are the best.......wow
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Captain Haddock
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Posted on 01-10-07 12:05
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You guys are cracking me up - playing shrink now, eh? Give me a convincing argument and I will give you credit. That's all. Both your arguments are so out of whack and infantile in my view, which is why it might appear to you that I am resistant to being convinced. The truth is I am not: I just need something strong enough from you that is logical, based on facts and for god's sake not emotionally charged. I am all ears if you can come up with something coherant and sensible. Gotta hit the sack now. Will follow up later. Have a good night.
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Posted on 01-10-07 12:13
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what did I tell youall about this capt...............he wants to give us credit....since when were you elected as a minder.....who gives a crap about your credit when your arguements are all pointless........if you are all ears and no heart and emotion to your beliefs that I have completely mistaken you..................nothing we say will be sensible and coherent to you because you already blocked our good points with your wax filled ears......................Clean your ear wax......wipe you nose and eyes....open you heart and than you will see what we mean....if you cant do that.....I will think you cant hear well see well or smell well because they are blocked with WAX, and BUGGERS ...........yuk
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MadDoGG
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Posted on 01-10-07 12:15
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Posted on 01-10-07 12:33
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Captain everyone is thinking logically and justifying their views, but you have not justified anything that you support. For example, you want to give support to the 30 lakh population in terai which already has raised arms against the Pahade and want their own army and police so they can legally evict Pahade. Bahunkto and MaddDogg you guys are on the right track and you guys have justified everyone of your opinion very well. One thing Capatain the question you are asking about right to all these people, how about Nepali people who live in India and protected the Indians from foreign agression, what about them getting the same right?
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Posted on 01-10-07 7:47
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Nepe tapai janun kanun ko kura - I am just a simpleton when it comes to laws, I am speaking from my heart. Sorry, not as complex as some sajhaites.. I support democracy but not every country can practice the somewhat "shaded" american democracy.
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Posted on 01-10-07 8:10
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Why the fug don't we just cut Nepal into small lil peices and take it back another couple of hundred years. Seems like a lotta folks here don't want to let go of the past. No wonder the country is doing so fuggin great. They rather dwell in petty lil matters.
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