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Melamchi Drinking Water Project information: http://www.adb.org/Documents/Profiles/LOAN/31624013.ASP Executing Agency: Ministry of Physical Planning and Works Contact Person : Mr. Poshan Nath Nepal, Special Secretary Tel. No. : (977-1)228670 Fax. No. : (977-1)228420 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deuba and his corrupt jail. How about other corrupt Engineers?
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Rahuldai
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Posted on 01-04-07 9:31
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Do you know who are corrupt people in Melamchi Project, what is ground reality of Melamchi Project area of Sindhupalanchok district. Do not accuse anybody knowing the facts. Batter to read the article. http://www.sajha.com/sajha/html/OpenThread.cfm?forum=2&ThreadID=39238
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Posted on 01-04-07 10:10
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Hello Bhunte The view from rahulvai is 100% right. Please do not blame the people without knowing the truth. GSBB
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bhimu
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Posted on 01-05-07 7:25
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Nepal King Gayane and Corruption Investigation Authority Nepal told that Shebahadur, his part members and Senior project Engineers was involved in corruption of US $5,00,00 project money. Dueba told that Grija was involved and corrupted project money. Dueba came to USA, and told people he is innocent. He do not know about project. Girija told that Dueba need to go to jail. Mrs. and Mr. Sher Bahadur Deuba riding in Pajero in kathmandu. Pajero cost US $85,000.
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Posted on 01-05-07 7:27
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Posted on 01-05-07 7:35
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Asian Development Bank Loan for Melamchi Project of Nepal: With the signing of a loan agreement between the government and the Asian Development Bank, the dream project may become a reality By A CORRESPONDENT Will the ambitious and much talked about Melamchi Water Supply Project (MWSP) become a reality? Yes, if latest developments are any indication. With the signing of an agreement for a US$ 120 million soft loan between the Asian Development Bank (ADB) and the Nepalese government for Melamchi on November 18, there are indications that the project has finally taken off. Melamchi river : Final deal Of course, some formalities are yet to be fulfilled. As per ADB rules, the agreement reached during the loan negotiations needs to be endorsed by the Nepalese government and senior management of the ADB. Once this endorsement is obtained, the next step is approval by the ADB board of directors. "The loan is expected to go to the ADB board before the end of the year and if approved, loan signing would take place some time early next year," said Dr. Richard Vokes, resident representative at the ADB Nepal Resident Mission. The approved loan, to be repaid over a period of 32 years, will be used mainly to construct a 28-km-long tunnel that will bring water from Melamchi River in Sindhupalchok district, nearly 40 km northeast of Kathmandu, to Sundarijal. The money will also be used to finance bulk distribution of water, management of waste water and social upliftment programs. The ADB is the lead donor in the US$ 340 million project. A number of bilateral donors, the World Bank and the Nepalese government are expected to contribute the rest of the money. The Japanese Bank for International Cooperation has agreed to provide a loan assistance of US$ 54 million for the construction of the project's water treatment plant. Similarly, the Nordic Development Fund has assured an aid of around US$ 10 million while the Swedish International Development Agency (SIDA) and the Norwegian Aid Agency (NORAD) have agreed to jointly provide a grant of US$ 50 million for the tunneling part of the project. The World Bank is expected to provide a loan of US$ 50 million while the Nepalese government is expected to invest US$ 115 million. All the donor agencies are expected to reach an official agreement with the government by April next year, officials said. Before that, the government will have to exhibit its commitment toward reforming the management of the state-owned Nepal Water Supply Corporation and fulfill other formalities. The project, estimated to be completed by 2006, will provide 170 million liters of water a day to over a million people in the capital valley. http://www.wafed-nepal.org/.../Melamchi%20Water%20Supply%20Project%20and%20Issues%20of%20Concerns%20Final%85.pdf Melamchi Water supply project site: http://www.melamchiwater.org/gall_38.htm
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Posted on 01-05-07 7:43
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Melamchi water project study: http://www.forum-adb.org/pub/briefers/0132.pdf Japan government gave Loan to Nepal for Melamchi project: Japan gave Forty-four million, six hundred and six thousand US Dollars (US$44,606,000), or about three billion, two hundred and ninety-six million, four hundred thousand Nepalese Rupees (NRs.3,296,400,000), to the Government of Nepal for the implementation of the Melamchi Water Supply Project. see report below... http://www.np.emb-japan.go.jp/oda/loan.html
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bhimu
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Posted on 01-05-07 8:23
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Where is Project? Where is US Dollars (US$44,606,000) project money?
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ImI
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Posted on 01-05-07 10:23
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Looking at the nature of distructive villagers ..Melamchi will definately come to KTM by 3000.Good Luck. This is what i call stupid monkeys of Nepal.Can anybody develop that country!!!!!!!
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Rahuldai
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Posted on 01-05-07 11:10
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"केही विकास विरोधी तत्वहरु मेलाम्ची भाड्ने तयारीमा जुटेका सुनिन्छन । मिनरल वाटर पिउने र डलर खाने ती विदेशी कठपुतलीहरुको तिर्खाएको काठमाण्डौंको सपनामा लात हान्ने अधिकार छैन । उपत्यकाका सचेत नागरिकहरुले तिनीहरुका कुनियत सफल हुन दिने छैनन् । यहाका जनता सचेत छन् । राष्ट्रले मागेको बेला जुनसुकै कर्ुबानी गर्न तयार छन् यहांका जनता । राजनैतिक अस्थिरताले पनि केही योजनाहरुको अकाल अवसान भएको छ । ूमेलाम्चीू र ूपानीू कुनै व्यक्ति वा राजनैतिक समूहको लागि होइन, काठमाण्डौंको जीवन हो मेलाम्ची ।" यही मेलम्ची को आदमा ज्ञाने ले त राजनीती गरे भने, एक दुई जना साझा मा बिकास बिरोधी कपुतहरु जन्मिनु कुनै आश्चर्यको कुरो भएन । कोरियन कम्पनि हानेल कोनेको ले निर्धारित समय अबधीमा केवल् १७ % मात्र काम् पुर गरेको ले पटक् पटक् सचेत् गराउदा नि काम् पुरा गर्ने चेष्टा नगरेको ले सुर्य बहादुर् को पालामा ठेक्क पट्टा तोड्ने कार्य भएको हो। सार्बजनिक् निर्माण् नियामावलि तथा एशियालि बिकाश् बैंकको निर्माण कार्य सम्बधि नियम् अनुसार् पुन: टेण्डर् आह्वान् गर्दा र लगत् इष्टिमेटलाइ समायोजन् गर्दा कूल् लागत् बढ्न गएको र सबैभन्द कम् रकम् मा कबोल् गर्ने टेण्डर् दाताको सदर् गर्दा करिब् ४० करोड् रकम् हानेल् कोनेको ले कबोलेको रकम् भन्दा ४० करोद् जति बढ्न गएको ठिक् सांचो हो। बुझ्नु पर्ने कुरो के छ भने त्यो टेण्डर् शर्तमा, यदि ठेक्केदार्को कमि कम्जोरिले ठेक्क पट्टा टोदी अर्को ठेक्का गर्नु परेमा पछि बढ्न गएको रकम् पुरनो ठेक्केदार् बाट् असुल् उपर् गरिने छ भनेर स्पष्ट सङ् उल्लेख्ख गरिएको छ। हानेल् कोनेको ले आफ्नो ४० करोड् र धरौटि बचाउन मेल्म्चि आयोजना नै खारेज् गर्ने हिसाब् किताब् ले भौतिक् योजना मन्त्रालयका उप सचिब् इन्जिनियर् हरिश् चन्द्र शह् ( शाहि नातेदार्) लाई उपयोग् गरि १० करोड् खर्च गरेको र तेहि निउ मा देउबा लगायत् ब्यक्तिहरि लाई थुना मा राखेक थिए। देउबा जी कति इमान्दार् थिए वा भ्रश्ट्र थिए त्यो सङ् यो लेखकको सरोकार् छैन, बहस को बिषय हुन सक्छ। तर मेलम्चि को वास्तबिकता यहि हो। अझ सजिलो को लागि म त्यो ठेक्क प्रकृया लाई गणितिय उदाहरण् दिन्छु। हानेल् कोनेको ले रु १०० को लागतको काम् ६० मा गर्छु भनेर सकार्यो तर काम् गरेन वा गर्न सकेन। नियमानुसार् र परियोजनाको समयमा तालिका लाई ध्यानमा राखी पुन: बोलपत्र आह्वान् गर्दा नया ठेक्केदार् ले रु ११० ( पुन: इष्टिमेट् गर्दा) को काम् १०६ मा सकार्यो। अब भन्नुस् होस् त्यो बढ्न गएको को रु ४६ भ्रष्टाचार् गरेको मानिन्छ? ज्ञानेको सुशासनको शान्दार् नमुना हो यो, नियन्तृत् मेडियामा यस्तो यथार्ततालाइ लुकैयो। तत्कालिन् आयोजना प्रमुख् नेपालको खाने पानि क्षेत्रको सबै भन्दा आदर्नीय र सफा ब्य्कति मानिन्छ तर बिडम्बना, देश का केहि गतिला राष्ट्रसेवक् ले नि जेलबाटै अब्काश् लिनु पर्यो, एउटा नमीठो दाग् बोक्नु पर्यो।
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ImI
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Posted on 01-05-07 11:30
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Corrupt and commisiion are Politicians are Politicians are there , king is king. they will be like that ..who needs water????people..Who is putting stupid unreasonable obstacles Now.. why it stops ??? monkey villagers won't stop doing politics . when this project was suppose to start ????1990 ....think ..KPbhattrai promised in 1990 what is today 2007 ...In 17 years if nepalese can't bring this fu(king project to end then ..well God Save Nepal..well btw GOD is actually saving Nepal ...Otherwise it is bankrupt country!!!
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Rahuldai
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Posted on 01-05-07 11:39
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yes, ImI, I agree with you. We people need water. Recently a separate pipe line has been installed from Paani pokhari to Palace- a direct line from water treatment plant. People have to wait 3 days for a bucket of water. Not only that the so called Melamchi sarokar samooh ( there are more than 20 organizations) have been obstructing the project since the actual work started in 1999. I worked that project at that time and visited several times around Melamchi area. I told my bosses that the project was feasible technically and financially but I suspected that I would be very very difficult to manage the local people fueled by Pashu (pati) Rana and Maoist. I left the project in 2001 for furhter study.
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Bhunte
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Posted on 01-06-07 1:29
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एक् जमानामा के पी भट्टराईज्यु ले मेलम्चिको पानीले नेपाल लाई सिङापुर बनाइदिन्छु भनि बाचा गर्नु भाथ्यो। अहिले सझाबासि को नजर् मा काठ्मन्डु झिङापुर् जस्तै भा छ। अब नेपाल् को ब्युरोक्रासि लाइ मेलाम्ची को पानि ले "गधा लाइ गाइ बनायेको" हेर्नै बान्कि छ। कुन्नि के जाति को झर्ला र खौन्ला भने जस्तो यो मेलम्चि को पानि कहिले तुर्केला र पिउन्ला भने जस्तो भा छ काठ्मान्डु का काकाकुल् जन्ता लाई आज्कल्। खोइ अब बिकास्बादि राहुल् भाइ को आन्खिभौ फुल्ने बेला सम्म पनि हाम्ले मेलाम्चि को पानि पिउन पाउने हो कि होइन ऊहि पशुपतिनाथ् ले जानुन्। lol
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Posted on 01-06-07 1:50
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Jai Nepal! Good discussion. First thing, the approach taken by KG Govt. on Melamchi was politically motivated. So far, it remains unclear whether Deuba was involved or not. He should be punished if found guilty. It is a part of national budget allocated and facility will be limited to Kathmanduties. So far, they are also nepalese and they deserve. But, its wise not to divert country's whole budget. There should be budget from Kathmandu municipality or some other arrangement (some sharing from Government), it is to Kathmandu and for Kathmandu. No matter, it is a capital.
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Posted on 01-06-07 2:10
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My point is: its injustice to poor people who live in remote areas, they have to pay a huge debt incurred by such big projects. Of course, poor people belong to the same country. Its not a matter of Kathmanduties or people out of Kathmandu. Be careful! Nepal is only one. Its just a tendency of our all governments in Nepal. This kind of system should be improved immediately. Melamchi is one example.
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Posted on 01-06-07 9:25
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ज्वाइ साप र भुन्टे जी, सकरात्मक सोच को लागि धन्यवाद । म मेलम्चिको प्रबक्ता होइन, तर पनि एक सचेत नगरिक अनि काठमाडौको बासिन्दा को हिसाबले मेलम्ची सँग मेरो सरोका छ । पहिलो कुरा त मेलम्चिको पानी काठमाडौ को जनताले मात्र पिउने होइन । जनगणना को आँकडा अनुसार (२००२ ) तीन वटै जिल्लाको कूल जनसंख्या ११ लाख को हारहरिमा देखिन्छ र अहिले सम्मको projection गर्दा नि १३-१४ लाख् भन्दा बढी हुन आउदैन। तर यथार्थमा अहिले काठ्माडौमा झन्डै ४० लाख् मान्छे बस्छन्। अब भन्नुस् ज्वाइ साप्, काठ्मान्डौको जनताको लागि मात्र हो र मेलम्चि? दोस्रो कुरो, जुन क्षेत्रको तथाकथित् ठालुहरुले मेलम्चि को बिरोध् गर्दै काम् मा बाधा पुर्याइ रहेछन् तिनिहरु पनि ९०% काठ्माडौमै बस्छन्, पानि पिउछन्, फोहर् निस्काशन् गर्छन्। तेस्रो कुरो, देश् को बजेट्को तेत्रो ठुलो अंश भन्ने कुरा गलत् हो, नेपाल् सर्कार्ले अहिले हरेक् साल् करिब् १ अरब् मात्र बजेट् दिने गरेको छ, त्यस्को पनि काम् हुन नसकेर झन्डै ५० % खर्च हुदैन। अहिले सम्म खर्च भएको मोटो रकम् मा नर्वे सर्कार् को प्राबिधिक् अनुदान् हो। न बुझेर मेलम्चि को नकरात्मक् प्रचार् भएको छ, त्यस्मा पनि बिकास् सहन् नसक्ने जमात् हरु जस्तो गोपाल् चिन्तन् शिवाकोटि, शाहि मन्त्री दीपक् ज्ञवालि, अजय मणि दिक्षित् आदि इत्यादि ले बलेको आगोमा घिउ थप्ने काम् गरि रहेका छन्।
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Posted on 01-06-07 10:45
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Actually little knowledge is dangerous as hinted by Rahulvai. अब नेपाल् को बिकास् बिरोधि हरु लाई काट्टो खुवायेर थानकोटको डाँडा कट्टाएर पठाउनु पर्ने होइन र? कसो राहुल् भाइ?
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Posted on 01-06-07 11:00
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भुन्टे जी, गर्नु पर्ने त त्यस्तै हो । तर के गर्ने तिन मर्स्याङ्दिमा घांस खुवाइएका ब्यक्ती ( जो मेलम्ची बिरोधी अभियान का नेता) अहिले प्रखर गणतन्त्रबादी भएकाछन । नेपाली जातिकोकै स्मरण शक्ती कम छ कि थाहा छैन, नगरिक समाज का नेता भएका छन । हिजो तिनै ले पूर्बी नेपाल को तस्वीर फेर्ने अरुण तेस्रो खारेज गराए । हुन त हाम्रा महान नेता भनौदा माकुने र तीनको पार्टिको पनि कम्ताको हात खुट्टा थिएन, अरुण तुहिनुमा ।
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Bhunte
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Posted on 01-06-07 11:24
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I also lived around Melamchi and crossed this stream hundreds times. Although Melamchi Bazar is couple hours of drive away from Kathmandu, it is more like बत्ती मुनी अन्ध्यारो. चेली बेटी बेच बिखन used to be rampant around that area. I don't know how much has changed now. Thanks to the rulers of that area!! The locals have to take initiatives for another घान्स् खुवाउने आन्दोलन to drive away those anti-development activists from Melamchi area.
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Rahuldai
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Posted on 01-06-07 1:30
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ठीक भन्नु भयो भुन्टे जी । मेरो पहिलो मेलम्ची भ्रमण मा नै हकिम हरुलाइ सोधेको थिएं तालामारङ को एउटा खान खाने होटल् खानाको पैसा वापत् रु १००० को नोट् दिंदा भा रु फर्काए, किन भनेर। जुन ठाम् कुनै भारतिय ब्यापारि जनता, कामदार् बस्दैन तेहाको हरेक् पसलमा भारु मात्र चल्दछ। न त तेहाँ लाहुर् बाट् फर्केका नै छन्। बल्ल बुझे हकिम् साहेब् ले, ती भारु काहाँ बाट आए भनेर। त्यतिबेला नै मैले हकिम् सहेब् लाइ भनेको थिएं -सर्, मेलम्चि यदि आउदैन वा समयमै सकिदैन भने तेस्को एउटै कारण मानबीय ब्यस्थापन् गर्न नसकेर हुने छ। पैसाको लागि मुम्बै मा छोरि, बहिनि अनि स्वास्नि पुर्यानेहरुले गर्बका साथ बाच्ने क्षेत्रमा पाइला पिच्छे पैसा खन्याउन सकेन भने अनेक् बहाना मा भाँजो हाल्ने छन्। हुन त तेति बेलाको हाकिम् साहेब् नि चिलिम् फर्कि सक्यो। सम्झदै होला, आजको वास्तबिकता तेति बेला नै भनेका थिए भनेर। फेरि बेइमानको आगोमा घिउ थप्ने घाँस खाने जन्तुहरुको अभाव भने नेपालम कहिलेइ कम् हुने होइन। कसो, भुन्टे जी?
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Posted on 01-06-07 3:35
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Any body knows that how much water there, the river looks like very small. How much water we will get from this project. We people are already thrusty so much and water there looks like few MEGA GALLONS. I am not suggesting to stop the project but this may not full fill the demand and may be usefull to look parallel project from other resourses.
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