May 20, 2015
Kathmandu, Nepal
Amsterdam Political Press

Nepal Celebrates it's Democracy Day Amidst Chaos

The fifth anniversary democracy day celebration was marred by the bombs set off in various parts of the capital today. Bombs were deployed in strategic locations such as the District Court of Patan, Kathmandu Nagar Palika and outside of Singha Durbar. The casualties have not been clarified by the government but according to bystanders and witnesses there could have been about 120 dead and about 250 injured in these incidents. Home minister Hom Raj was not available for comments.

The Democracy day celebrations planned for the evening however went on without any incidents. The five hour program was held at the Deepak Bista Memorial Hall. Prime Minister Khagendra Thapa was there to precide over the event. During his speech no mention was made of the atrocities which happened earlier today.

In retrospect, five years after the trade blockade from US and India which began in May 2005, the will of the people won the autocratic regime resulting in an all out democracy by the people, for the people and to the people. The nation of Nepal finally breathed the air of democracy on May 20, 2010.

As predicted by few liberals, the transition period from Monarchy to a Democratic Government was not smooth. As soon as the King stepped down, the different underground parties raised their heads. The same of names resurfaced on the horizon of the newly found democratic government. In spite of the majority disliking the same old names, because of party politics, the Koiralas came back into the political mainstream. Right after the king stepped down, there was so much chaos in the streets and the capital that a curfew had to be slapped for two consecutive months. Despite general popularity within the people of the valley, the army still had loyalty to the royals. The royals leaving the scene to an unspecified location created misplaced loyalties within the army camps and the law makers resulting in an uncertain political and social atmosphere which is believed to have cost over 3,000 lives in the capital alone.

Finally when an actual cabinet was formed, they had to start with an emergency rule - restricting press freedom and freedom of movement, which the Prime Minister termed "for the sake of national security and democracy". In fact there was no other way the country could come to a flow of regular life unless these emergency rules were set.

As normal flow of life returned, the Maoist problem resurfaced with such intensity that few members of the new government practically had to run for cover to India. In 2013 three ministers of the Nepali government were targeted by the Maoists and a public list was available which cited five more ministers being in the HitList. Those named all decided to take refuge in neighboring India. The Maoist insurgents had created huge bases in the capital itself threatening to overthrow the government. As the social bond grew weaker with Party politics and fight for power, the Maoists have become very strong seeping into the capital.

In spite of the democratic movements promises of taking over all parts of Nepal into one democratic country, there was never any attempts even to hold talks with the Maoists. The Maoists were not willing to have talks and the internal politics did not leave room for the decision makers to focus too far from their own bases.

After 5 years of democracy today Nepal is a failed state. In a country where the biological and physiological needs of people such as food, drink, shelter, water, etc. has not been met for a huge percentage of people, the ideals of Democracy rarely seeps into fulfilling these needs.

The incidents of today throws uncertain doubts in the mind of democracy lovers about the feasibility and practicality of democracy in Nepal. It seems like it's only a matter of time till the Maoist insurgency claim the capital and throws Nepal into another 200 years of communist regime.

Signing off Saroj Nepal.

So engrossed at work that I am unable to post some complementary words to my favourite poster's new narrations in the other thread, yet I can't stay quiet at any attempts as such of a bonded mind to beguile people with this kind of crap.

What an idea to befuddle and panic the sajhaites. If you don't support the King, the destiny is all set to be catastrophic. Delivering a nice message for your lord, isn't it?

As if people don't understand your slant. Keep them coming man, you will definitely recieve accolades from the devotees of KG. And a 'Gorkha Dachhin Bahu' too. Why should I not tolerate seeing one of our beloved sajhaites sprinting to be honoured from his lord?

Lets me see how far you can go beyond this to guard your Lord's wishes.

Nobady is stupid, not even padequeen here? Tara papai le bhaneko kura ali nilna garho bho. if u want i an also conjure a doomsday scenario more lethal, more potent than yours. But it doesn't make sense to even think such nonsense talk like yours.
but you are welcome to make your remarks, nobody should condemn you either.

Pade Queen ma anti-democracy hoina kya kusto kuro bujhdaina keta ho. Nepal ko paripyekshya ma tyeha ko political/social climate herera, shayed jhanai Nepal khalto ma khasla ki bhanera caution matra dina chaheko ho.

Tyetti.

papai=tapai

lets think positively, saroj. do your own contribution to your country. It will certainly make a difference in the long run. saroj, u become capable to become the leader, don't look up to others to become your leaders.

My view hai u don't have to agree with it.

Newuser, I don't understand why you continue to call the King the Lord. Are you his chamcha or something? The king is nothing more than a human being who was lucky to be born in the royal family in Nepal where fortunately for him, his ancestors have been ruling for god knows how long. He is a good businessman and he has used his position of power to make huge profits. His son is not an example either. He's known to kill few people and go beat up people and flash/fire his gun every chance he gets trotting upon his new harley. They are not the perfect of people.

So don't continue to call them LORD unless you are stupid too. For more information about why he is not a Lord go to this link that I started http://www.sajha.com/sajha/html/OpenThread.cfm?forum=2&ThreadID=20819

Now if you and MP keep coming back to me with the pathetic point of me being kings supporter you will be conveniently ignored since you have already branded me a king's supporter simply because I question the feasibility of democracy in Nepal. I don't want to waste my time with one track minds like you if you keep continuing to imply that I suport the king.

You need to remove that veil of narrow mindedness and rethink on the possibility of the above fictitious scenario.

To the new Nostradamus :
Yes he is a Lord.Not mine but yours. Your so called fiction portrays yourself what you really are. Don't need to defend anymore.
Call me narrow minded or attribute with whatever word you find in the dictionary but I don't see you as anyone except a slave of King G.

I despise you for producing such a horrendous depiction. You want to see exactly what you have written in your 'fiction' in case your lord fails.Otherwise how could you imagine of that crap thing?

If you had been thinking anything beyond serving your Lord, you could have written something about the need of good leadership. The need of compromise between warring factions. The need of Unity amongst Nepalese. The necessity for the King to accept himself as a constitutionally, legally binding monarch. The need of a peaceful resolution of the maoists conflict through power sharing. The need of a strong legislature and judiciary. Have you ever jotted down some words on these things? Why do you always forsee a chaotic future of Nepal without Gyanendra being a dictator.
You want us to believe that Nepal would burn in chaos if Gyanendra is not allowed to do what he is doing right now. F*** off man. I won't be duped by your propaganda.

Someone rightly said you are Tulsi Giri 2. Sajha ma Gyanendra ko Pristhaposhan garera matrai Tulsi Giri ko level ma pugnata gahrai chha. But you are no different to him in terms of the hatred you have against democratic values. No matter how you defend, one message you want to convey is - Panchayat matrai Nepal ko mato suhaune bebastha ho, esko kunai bikalpa huna sakdaina. Ma pani euta Nepali Nagarik ho yar. Ahile ko jasto nikamma Rajtantra pakha lagdaima Nepal ma Saroj le bhanya jasto sankat aauchha bhane etrai siti.
Again, I despise you for thinking so meekly about our nations future.

>>>The king is nothing more than a human being who was lucky to be born in the royal family in Nepal where fortunately for him

Two quick things Saroj-ji,

1) I can't believe it took a Sajhaity to figure out that King is a human being!
2) Have you heard this word anywhere: SARCASM?

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I am not against supporters of king per se. I am against those who are against democracy. It just that those who oppose democracy AT THIS POINT mostly happened to be supporting the king.

And, dear respected sir, if it's not a waste of your precious time (which of course you spend in Sajha making tens of postings a day!), I have one more "pathetic" question to ask: Are you going to answer my question in my previous post? I asked you if you were willing to give up your OWN right to freedom of speech and keep shut. Simple "Yes" or "No" will do; No Mahabharat required. Thank you very much sir, I appreciate your help in trying to remove the "veil of narrow mindedness" from me! If you answer this question, I would bother you anymore, so you can use your precious time addressing "non-pathetic" comments.

Btw, sir, Khagendra Thapa is one hell of a fictional name you have in your "fictional scenario." That "fictional" person has written several articles supporting the king's move. If you haven't read his articles, some of which were even posted here, and even ridiculed by truly yours once, perhaps it is time to stop writing and start reading!
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Sahil-ji wrote:
" But more so that the condition of Nepal might deteriorate further under democracy."

--> Sahil-ji, haven't we heard this EXCUSE to curb freedom too many times already? This "might" has turned into a big IF, especially seeing what Gyanucha and his cronies have done since Feb-1.

Saroj is a pronstar. He likes Gyan Bdr Shah DEV very much. He is NOT against democracy but he is totally FOR Autocracy. What a hypocrite? Sounds like some Bahun who tells others that they should NOT eat meat, but oneself eats MOMOS. What a cocksucker.... I had to say this to a stupid dumbass like this dude.

Newuser and M.P.

You two have truely shown how intolerant of any other view you both are. I suggest you stop showing everyone your true faces which ridicules the concept of democracy as in turning down/ridiculing/attacking other's ideas as being Kings supporter. You both should be a little more creative and more answerable than that.

As far as you drawing out names from the purely fictional writeup, mate I just pulled out some name. Nothing serious. You guys can't even take a fictional story. That's pretty pathetic.

You two resemble the Maoist mentality:
In one of the far eastern part of Nepal, which is under the Maoist rule, a bunch of Ghasiya (grass cutters) were walking through the forest, cutting and gathering grass. The group of maoist cadets stopped them and asked who they supported. The Ghasiya's said, we just want to keep the forest healthy cut off harmful grass so that the trees and other plantation don't die out. The cadets said. 'oh if you're not with us, you're against us' and beheaded all of them. Moral of the story: if you are supporting democracy, have a little more open mind. If you're not capable of tolerating dissent or different point of view, stop your fake support for your so democracy where you fight for freedom of opinion and speech.

M.P. I don't know where you find the logic in your pathetic request for me to stop writing. Have you run out of pathetic ideas besides attacking any dissent by calling them king supporters?

I will answer your question once you start behaving like a true supporter of democracy by not attacking others' opinions. You asking me to stop writing is the same as me asking you to SHUT it until true democracy is instilled in Nepal. Does that make any sense? Try to make some sense will you? You sound like a learned person. Stop stooping low to the level of stupidity.

Newuser, by the way you're one stupid closed minded son of a biatch. You can fukk off if you can't participate in a decent discussion without using foul language. You see I can curse too but it's not as much fun as in presenting your ideas and discussing in a more matured way. Don't you think you're letting it go way over your head? We're just trying to discuss in a matured way here. If you feel too immature to discuss with me and start using profanities then you have lost your case here.

Oh sardarsing the dumb parrot is here too. Haha bring it on. Bring on your intolerance for the true meaning of democracy by attacking anyone who doesn't support your ideas. Such is the state of the fighters of democracy.

Oh well, it sounded great in theory anyways.

Well Saroj. You are upset of me, aren't you? Thats what I write for in your thread-to upset you. I don't want the KIng's slave mislead and misguide other sajhaites with their hopelessly dubious presumptions. In fact I do understand very well that you are one of the King's crooks. And your posts prove them than anything else. I comment on your thread just to help others realise who you are. I am sure people are knowing more and more about you now and I am happy about that.

You talk about profanity. he he he. Do you know the meaning of F*ck off? Go and consult a dictionary sir. And also don't forget to see what a son-of- a-bit*h means. I told you to f*ck of and you said me a son-of-a-bit*h. Now see the difference between these two phrases.
You tried to drag a relation called mum in this debate, didn't you? You deserve some punches on your filthy mouth for this absurdity. Good that I don't you. Swear me with all words you have at your disposal.But don't ever take a word called son and father and mum now.

Saroj sir,

Let me commend you for providing this highly amusing discussion here. You sure sound like a learned person who does not stoop "low to the level of stupidity."

I challenged you to keep shut -- my intention was to ask you if you yourself can stick to rules of Gyanuchaa back in Nepal. Let me tell you: you failed. Failed miserably.

You tell others to tolerate dissent and not use profanity. Guess what, go back and count the number of vulgar words/phrases that have been used in this thread--congratulations, sir, you win! So you are not a supporter of king and you are not for democracy, what are you? Are we right in assuming here that you are a, ahem, Maoist supporter? Or are you one of those taak-pare-tiwari-natra-gotaame? Please clarify, sir.

One final request before I go back and hit the books, sir, I think you should let the word "pathetic" alone; it has been used excessively in your earlier postings. I mean, what bad has that poor word done to you, sir?

And that ghasiya analogy, sir, I think you should buy a big mirror and try to see if YOU fit into that picture of those who do not approve dissent!

Mp..common now, you are being a hypocrite.
only saroj is the voice for common people in nepal. He only knows ground reality in nepal.
why?

common now dude, he's the only one who goes to nepal every were and gets involve with some grass root projects. He's the sole voice for common people if u ask me. Rest of us, we're all damn hypocrites. I mean, since we don't go and take part in active politics even if its not our frigging field, we're friggin hypocrites. we're only preaching ideals, cause we are giving opinions against dictatorship. OH. mind you, he's against monarchy, he's against political parties and he's against maoists, but he knows so well what nepal needs, he knows how to put food for th ecommoon people. but MP i am sorry to inform your and mine parents are not common people, cause they get some frigging dollars from us. ONLY SAROJ is the TRUTH, ULTIMATE TRUTH. cause he's staying in europe yet goes to nepal every year to help the poor. SO if u r in any other field besides politics, yo uare all hypocrites, cause you should go and stay in nepal and fight against the king. do you have guts to? no no broda. noly saroj has. but since he's bornre and raise in europe, he's got that benefit of the doubt as well cause he knows how to make doko now. :)

saroj, u r the only one not blinded by ONE SIDED view. you are the enlightener if you ask me. :) i am yor ultimate fan. U r SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GOOOOD. thanx for telling us what we should be doing. damn me and other people. we're hypocrites. SAROJ. now the whole nepal rests on you dude, only you can save us from the inevitable in nepal.

Friends,

I am not surprised on Saroj's postings. We have to expect such postings from many other royal slaves, specially when their GOD falls in trouble as KG now. They love to do such things as a final try when they are sure to be wipeout forever. They do not have their minds. They do not believe on themselves. They can not differentiate milk and water. They even do not know what they are doing or saying. They just have very narrow mind, think within a tiny space and try unsuccessful attempts to deviate general people's mind. They do what they think is good for their boss or GOD. That is the way they are trained, that is the way their minds are filled by their boss or GOD, and that is the best way for them to enjoy temporarily.

Saroj is a simple example how they are panicked with few months in power. When a foolish dictator KG has set, by himself, all the way to disappear forever from Nepal Aama's land, his puppets are already panicked. Saroj's post is a good example to see how they are loosing their minds now.

Saroj is a very genuine slave, a very perfect puppet. I really like him. At least he has shown is slavery to his GOD. So let him to play on his path, let him to enjoy on his dreams and, let him do whatever he wants. After all, Nepalese people are well educated to differentiate GOODS and BADS.

BEST OF LUCK SAROJ !!!

Deep condolence to Saroj. We pray for his departed soul. Lets donate some $$ to build the Saroj Memorial Center...

Such mob mentality in a democratic crowd. No wonder lot of people have begun to realize that the democratic movement in Nepal is being run by the so called elite who have a shot at benefitting from their relatives in power.

You guys need to be stronger than pissing in your pants at a fictional story. Haha. M.P. you sure are a pathetic bloke. Do you think you are a professor grading the posters with pass or fail grade? So much superiority complex is not good for you. I'm not here to be judged by democracy fans blinded by the theory.

I am just here to present the possibility that after all the hue and cry for democracy, knowing what kind of politicians are going to be ruling Nepal, it may be worser off than it is right now. I am all up for democracy once the situations stabilize a little. Right now things are too volatile.

There actually were/are people who are unsure if democracy is going to work like it's supposed to. But your mob mentality have shut them out, because most of us who think this way do so because we dont' like conflict.

Regarding vulgar words, MP, look at your comrade newuser's behavior. He's the one that opened the pandora's box of profanity by using "F*ck off". Oh but you're a comrade too so why point fingers at your own people eh?

However I am impressed at your solidairity. But I'd like to ask you guys to keep it subjective and not get personal. Let us learn to enjoy discussing.

Happy weekend to you all.

M.P. Ji you said

--> Sahil-ji, haven't we heard this EXCUSE to curb freedom too many times already? This "might" has turned into a big IF, especially seeing what Gyanucha and his cronies have done since Feb-1.

I'm not sure if what Gyanucha has done since Feb 1 is any different from how they have been doing it before. Censorship always existed in one way or other and it will continue to exist in one form or other. Democracy should be the ultimate goal for any country. While we strive towards this goal, we must not forget various possible scenarios such as the one saroj ji pointed out.

To the Nostradamus once again: He says-
'Regarding vulgar words, MP, look at your comrade newuser's behavior. He's the one that opened the pandora's box of profanity by using "F*ck off".

Saroj 'sir', the meaning of the phrasal verb/interjection which you found to be profane or obscene, as far as I understand is- go away, get out of here, stop it etc. A remark of displeasure. I think this is a commonly used slang. Believe me, I have heard all sorts of people using that everywhere.

See how I used that term in my sentence:

'You want us to believe that Nepal would burn in chaos if Gyanendra is not allowed to do what he is doing right now. F*** off man. I won't be duped by your propaganda. '

So you got cracked up thinking that I dealt you with obscenity? He he he . Saroj, the Nostradamus of Nepalese politics, it doesn't mean as profane as you think. Obviously, I was irritated by your non-sense speculations and it simply reflected my displeasure.

Anyways, poor fellow, you got to understand that it is damn hard to defend ill-intended businesses. You wanted to threaten, panic people by putting an scary imagery of the situation in absence of monarchy in Nepal and I dismissed it in my own trademark fashion. Lets not take it inter-personal. Failed to convince others by your prophecy, you are making all sorts of accusations at me now. I have no desire to fight a war of words with you. It is my instinctive habit to take everyone who comes up with a defense of dictatorship. This time, it was your turn. Seriously, I won't let anyone make a partisan royalist propoganda in sajha till I have time to check this website.

I have no wish to participate in any discussions with self proclaimed democracy fighters who cannot even tolerate a simple fictional depiction of a possible event.

Are you implying that there is not even going to enough democracy to write a fictional story, let alone any kind of dissent in the democracy that you are fighting for? I shudder to imagine the kind of democracy you are fighting for when you cannot even take a simple fictional story without demanding public lynching.

The double standard is pretty evident and I am sure the readers of this thread can make personal judgement regarding your double standards as far as rooting for democracy yet your persistent effort to SHUT me out by clearly telling me to f*ck off.

You f*ck off with your fake democratic aspirations.